The Reason the Government Tells Us Troops are Fighting For Our Freedoms

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  1. akphidelt2007

    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    They are fighting for our freedoms. Whether the current battle they are fighting "protects" us is up for debate but their actual existence simply protects us. People do not engage war with us simply because we have the protection. We live a simple life, the Spurs lost tonight... I am very sad!!!

    But on a serious note, the United States Military is the backbone of this country and provides us all these freedoms to complain about how bad America is.
     
  2. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    Yeah...

    They don't need to be in 192 countries.
     
  3. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sadly, a voluntary military is a complete disaster and has hurt the US.
    People who self-select the military are not the best people to give guns to and put in the heat of battle.

    Having a permanent military also promotes violence the same way that having an arms industry promotes military action.
    If they can't produce weapons and bombs, the economy weakens, so we keep shovelling money at the military industrial complex so they can make more weapons and then we keep finding new places to use them so that business improves. It's a sick and vicious cycle and nothing like the the founders imagined for the US.

    It is also harmful to the society as a whole to have some who fight and die and some who sit back and posture.
    The healthiest societies will have a national service where everyone contributes to the nation's defense, maintenance and well-being, and in return receives the essential tools to become and remain a better citizen- education and healthcare- and social security when they are not able to care for themselves any longer.

    The whole concept of pushing patriotism is as degenerating and debilitating a con job as pushing religious obedience on a population.
    Both serve the state and authority at the expense of the individual, and both are lies perpetuated to keep the individual obedient and mindlessly pliant.
    It's no wonder that we have such a degenerate society today when we create a world where we can excuse any sort of barbarism under the guise of patriotism or religious righteousness.
     
  4. Validation Boy

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    Luciferian One-world Imperialism was INDEED what the "founding fathers" intended for this country.
     
  5. Surfer Joe

    Surfer Joe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Lol...Maybe where you come from that's the story, but here on planet earth that nonsense is just more of the tinfoil-hat banalities we expect from the paranoid and the clueless.
    Don't embarrass yourself.
     
  6. Validation Boy

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    Tell me I need a tinfoil hat when your family is getting interned by the shadowlords.

    Trust me. That day will arrive.

    We'll all be dead, but you'll know then that open minded people, like myself, were right all along.

    And if you don't believe our founding fathers worshiped Lucifer, you need a serious check-up on your history knowledge.
     
  7. E_Pluribus_Venom

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    On a voluntary basis.

    Your posts tend to oversimplify actions that have a variety of causes... none of which being a presumed need by our government to needlessly "terrorize" a public. If you actually realized that war is an ugly thing, you wouldn't find it so easy to paint one side as the issue.
     
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    Yea, but that's only republicans, right? democrats do it from their heart and they apologize
     
  9. wezol

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    One way, right now as of this moment...

    You have the freedom to be on your computer, ignorant about war, griping about how much you hate the Military. You are free to do that because we have a volunteers, it's because of these people volunteering that we don't have a draft, or mandatory 2 year service.

    For it not for volunteers, you would have your freedom of choice taken away.

    But of course non of this matters to you. You are an extremist in your beliefs and no civil conversation is going to sway the way you think. So I don't even know why we bother with you.

    You think you know war, but you don't. You know SOME things about war, but the heart of the matter, you don't know jack. You are free to not know these things, and stay ignorant to the realities of war and how it's really done, because of your freedom of choice. Because of that freedom, you think we all rape and pillage, murder innocents, and what have you. Because of your freedom of choice, you have chosen to not go to a war zone and see first hand how professional we really are.
     
  10. RiseAgainst

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    Yeah real professional you boys are, killing people who are shooting at you, a natural reaction to be sure. But these people are defending their homelands. You have no business raping the middle east and north africa. It is none of our (*)(*)(*)(*)ing business. Someone else already mentioned that I wouldn't last past bootcamp/basic combat training so what exactly are you talking about? I'd most likely have my freedom taken away for a couple of months until my "rebellious attitude" gets me kicked out then I can (*)(*)(*)(*) off to do whatever I was going on about before. But to be sure, killing freedom fighters in 3rd world countries who are defending their brothers and sisters from the Satanic imperialist war mongers is not keeping me safe. These people were never threatening to take away my freedoms. They want YOU to leave THEM the (*)(*)(*)(*) alone. They hate us because we are over THEIR not because we are "free and prosperous". I don't have to know very much about the military and how so-called "professional" you folks are at killing righteous defenders of their lands to know that you belong to the greatest terrorist organization the world knows.
     
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    I am not free you jackasses.

    If you want to fight for my freedoms go to DC and restrain the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing tyrants already.
     
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    I was never once under the impression that I was fighting for your freedoms. You don't matter.
     
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    You have an interesting profession, you contract killer you.
     
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    You seem to have a pretty interesting profession yourself, you cowardly hypocrite p u s s y.
     
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    The big profit is in drones this year as the Obama administration unleashes them for use by law enforcement across the country. Next year it'll be armaments for those drones so that police departments can drop a bomb on suspected bank robbers stuck at traffic lights.
     
  16. RiseAgainst

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    You're right. I'm a pooSee. It's a good thing I'm saying these things online and not in front of the devil dogs personally. Lord knows what they'll do to me. But on second thought, I'm not a woman, child or puppy so I should be good right?

    [video=youtube;5mjb8-2dh9s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mjb8-2dh9s[/video]
     
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    You bleed the same as a puppy, woman, or child.
     
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    That's right we're all fair game for the Government's Satanic Soldiers.
     
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    That's right, and we're out to get brave folks who back their convictions with actions and just not words, because they're the biggest threat to the dark overlord's plan. But, don't worry you're safe, because you're some joke who flaps his gums over the Internet, and nothing more.
     
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    What are you fighting for again?
     
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    Actually, I'm a retired contract-baby-puppy killer, and any other generic term you can spew. You wouldn't understand what I fought for, nor are you worthy of discussing it with.
     
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    Ah so you don't know.

    Well hey, maybe you protected your fellow brothers and sisters in arms, which counts for something. When you get thrown in the death match, you fight. So you fought for your life.

    Was it worth it?
     
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    Yes, but I wouldn't want too do it again.
     
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    Would you want newly graduated 18 year olds, say your sons for instance, to do it, today, in our current conflicts?
     
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    They lie to the troops, because the troops won't fight for the bankers wars and geopolitical plans.... which even include our old enemies the Rothschilds and Royals.... So they lie to them.
     

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