Liberals: Purchase a Gun or pay a "Homeland Security Penalty"

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  1. Jarlaxle

    Jarlaxle Banned

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    I have close to twenty grand worth of tools in my garage...and many of them simply ARE NOT replaceable anymore! They are no longer made.
     
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    You're saying it's hypocritical if we don't support your gun law, which is false! It would however be hypocritical if we said your gun law was unconstitutional. Then you might have a point.

    I think your gun law is stupid, not unconstitutional.

     
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    I thought you actually believed in "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed" regardless of the security needs of a free State? You should be saying; hi there Mr. Burglar, I would infringe on your right to keep and bear Arms, but you have a Second Amendment and I feel compelled to be moral enough to bear true witness to that Commandment of our Founding Fathers.
     
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    I think your health care law is stupid, and unconstitutional.

    You thinking something is stupid won't prevent you from having to buy a gun, though. The same stupid logic that applied to Obamacare would apply here, as well. You wouldn't have a leg to stand on. It's either suck it up, or admit to hypocrisy.
     
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    Why would I say that?
     
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    The Affordable Gun Act is an inevitable consequence of the Affordable Care Act. Buy a gun or be sued for your incompetent decision to NOT defend your family. The Affordable Air Conditioning Act follows. The Affordable Heating act, the Affordable televison act, the affordable water act, the affordable sewage act, the affordable rent act, the affordable mortgage act, the affordable internet act, the affordable Maserati act, the affordable Honda act, the affordable Polaris act, the affordable you name act.
     
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    Well isn't that an oxymoron.... And is the suggestion by the OP satire or not?
     
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    Because you claim that our Second Amendment is a purely individual right regardless of any militia involvement or the security needs of a free State. Otherwise, you don't even have an argument.
     
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    No. Our States have a free trade area the size of the United States.
     
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    What part of this is lost on you? This is easy. I don't support your law because its STUPID not because its UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

    The only hypocrisy here is yours because you propose an assanine law that YOU think IS unconstitutional.


     
  11. Brewskier

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    How is this unconstitutional? The Government passes a law saying you need to purchase something, and you can be taxed if you don't buy it. Explain how this is any different that Obamacare.
     
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    We are, liberals *cough Obamacare *cough* apparently aren't - but that's just par for the course.
     
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    You don't hunt do you?
    When you hunt big game if your moose or bear goes down but isn't dead you finish it with point blank pistol fire to the head.

    Hand guns are also useful for concealable protection. Responsible handling of fire arms is actually something that should be taught to all Americans at a young age for emergency and safety purposes. This would significantly reduce accidental death relating to fire arms. You have armed robbers in the city and sick animals in rural area's.
     
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    They're both unconstitutional, I think.

    So is the draft, of course. And the FCC's content regulations. And the pledge of allegiance. And cops getting violent with protesters. And warrantless wiretapping. And an allegiance between the government-sponsored military-industrial complex and the news/entertainment media. And torture (including waterboarding). And the president declaring wars. And a million other things.

    It's unfortunate that so many of the "strict constitutionalists" have been anything but. True strictness would have to transcend partisanism.

    Seems a shame just to get rid of Obamacare when there are so many other unconstitutional things out there to deal with, too. Just imagine the potential of the forces combined ...

    ... nah. Couldn't happen, could it?
     
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    In order to make the "Affordable Gun Act" a constitutionally legal reality, they just have to adjust the wording slightly:

    Every worker in the US will have an income tax assessed against them equal to a flat $500. If a person purchases a qualifying firearm during the tax year, that person will be eligible for a tax credit equal to $500. People who aren't legally allowed to own firearms will also be eligible for the credit.

    Thus the AGA becomes an incentive for people to buy guns, not a penalty. It falls neatly in the income tax amendment and the federal power to tax.
     
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    It's not different in terms of constitutionality, it's just a bad idea. That's why I don't support it, but there's no hypocrisy in that.
     
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    Moronic analogy/comparison.

    Not owning a firearm will not possibly bring financial ruin to someone and/or their family.

    Not having health insurance can possibly bring financial ruin to someone and/or their family if they have a serious illness. And to those who can afford health insurance but choose not to get it, end up driving up the costs for everyone else's premium when they stroll into the ER and refuse to pay their bill.

    /thread
     
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    If a burglar comes knocking on your door not owning a fire arm can cost you and your family your lives. Thus it is a good comparison.

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