Relevance of the GOP

What exactly is the relevance of the GOP other than people turning to them in mass like in 2010 to try and run from the Democrat party? What exactly have they done or do they propose other than shaking their fists in the air promising to overturn this or that? What "success" have they had in the past at doing anything? And lastly, can they survive another liberal conservative like "W" in Romney or will this be their death blow?

 

To drive home my point, Romney keeps crying that he will repeal Obamacare, however, what would that take let alone what to put in its stead. It would take a supermajority of Congressmen in both Houses. Does anyone here think that Romney thinks this is an obtainable goal or is this just pure demagoguary on the part of Romney?

It's kinda like "W" getting up and saying he is against abortion on demand. Yeepee!!! It gives me a warm tingly feeling all over.

 

Romney won't repeal and deep down the Republicans know he is lying, they are just too afraid to not vote Republican. They've been told a third party is a throwaway vote, so they will get their "choice" in there by hook or by crook (but mostly by lying down and (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing).

Romney will be the liberal Republican that can "make peace" between the Dems and Repubs on the healthcare reform and use his Massachusetts record. We will get something that is both pro-business and anti-freedom at the same time, a cluster(*)(*)(*)(*) to the middle class.

The "liberal" part of the conservative bothers me less than the "authoritarian treat the white house like a dictatorship" thing.

 

Can you think of any conservative victories in the past half century that the GOP can hang it's hat on, or are they just a minor speed bump to centralized control?

 

They'll say they ended the Cold War. Since I care about rights and freedoms and our economy...I can't think of any. They've been useless from their "Read my lips, no new taxes" to the Patriot Act.

 

Actually, now that it has been deemed a Tax, it can be rid of at Reconciliation, which means it only needs 50 votes and is filibuster proof. There are 3 Democrats in the Senate RIGHT NOW that might be open to this. Even without this, the Republicans would only need to pick up another 4 seats and it's a done deal.

 

I'm sorry, I simply don't believe that the GOP is capable of over coming the obvious supremacy of the democratic party. Looking at the past, they are either in cohoots with them or inept. The GOP has become nothing more than a shoulder to cry on after being raped like we saw in 2010.

THat aside, what should be put in its stead? My guess is another huge government program. What does Romney want to do?

 

The USSR would have collapsed with or without the GOP, just like we see Greece about to do.

 

Do you believe that the Republicans and Tea Party Republicans really believe Romney will repeal the cut or are they saying they believe it so that they can act like they're surprised later when he doesn't?

I don't know how they're trusting a man who said he wouldn't do that in Massachusetts, and then went on to establish Romneycare will honestly truly mean it at a national level when he has more power.

 

Romney has to say something to get elected. He knows that a large number of Americans, both on the left and right, hate Obamacare, so saying he will overturn it is appealing. The only alternative is to give us other reasons to vote for him, which I am not familiar with if he has.

Other than that, what does he have to run on? Why is anyone voting for him other than saying at least he is not Barak Obama?

 

So if you think there is such a plurality opposed to Obamacare, why wouldn't Romney repeal it? It sounds like it would be a popular move, particularly if he wins, Obamacare will probably have played a part in it.

 

After winning why would he need to repeal it? Can you take your vote back?

Did Obama repeal the Patriot Act after he got into office? Look at all of the campaign promises in the last 20 years. How many were fulfilled?

Look at what Mitt's done. Look at his record in Massachusetts. Look at what he said just a year ago about health care reform.

Politicians are like teen boys. They'll tell you anything they have to to get into your pants.

 

All you can hope is that they use a rubber.

 

Both parties will be either dead or become minor parties within a few years. Maybe even by 2020, I think.

 

They're leading us somewhere. I didn't used to be a tin foiler, but I follow laws being made and I read these executive orders. Something not so friendly is going on. Why all of these authoritarian control laws? Why now? We have the world economy going in the (*)(*)(*)(*)ter...

Something's up.

 

Your one world utopia may be just around the corner!!

 

No question there. But what?

 

Enslavement. Does it matter the flavor? God forbid one of their "isms" becomse linked with your beloved socialism.

In the back of their minds, I'm sure they are telling themselves they are "saving" the world from itself, kinda like how Hitler told himself that he needed to save the world from Jews.

Things like over population, carbon footprints, limited resources etc. are all good issues to help rationalize your plan to herd them like cattle.

 

I have a few theories and they are all revolved around how these "masters of the universe types think". They think they're better, more capable of ruling. They think we have too many kids. I think its pretty spelled out on the Bilderberg and Council for Foreign Relations websites and in the UN minutes, the DAA, the Patriot Act, and our latest round of executive orders.

Look at how they act.

Neither Romney or Obama are "patriotic". The people at the top don't care about outsourcing because they don't care about the actual people living here, just the bottom line of the market and currency. Moving to economic oligopoly is the plan and a move to a global order looks to be on the agenda.

In theory the one world, Star Trek planet/federation sounds cool, but... unlike the people in the movies, all our leaders are (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s and destroyers.

 

I would agree.

 

The Georgia Guidestones could only have been put up by people with lost of cash to spare. Read the brochure that they have at the visitor's center and you get the picture of what these types feel is the best possible result for the world.

 

You apparently don't understand the importance of a small central government, so of course you won't hold much importance in the non-action of government in response to this priority.

 

Its about winning.

Is and always has been.

Voting purely on principles and failing to recognize the importance of the independent vote is suicide.

 

How does he not? He's proven that he understand the importance of small central government over and over again. It's the status quo Republicans that need to prove it when they keep sending up Big Government goons.

 

Pure and unadulterated fear-mongering hogwash. If you want to keep growing government put in the candidates proven to grow it: Democrats and Republicans.