Stringent voter ID law in Pa. could prevent 750,000 from voting

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  1. Professor Peabody

    Professor Peabody Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The first photo of a person was taken in 1838. George Washington died in 1799, Thomas Jefferson died in 1826, John Adams also died in 1826 and Daniel Boone died in 1820, my guess is a no.
     
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    Wow. Most idiotic post of the thread. Congratulations!!

    BTW- Feel free to cite the IMAGINARY ROADBLOCKS in these requirements for REAL, LEGAL VOTERS:
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    http://www.votespa.com/portal/server...o_bring/585320


    As of the November 6, 2012 General Election, voters must show proof of identification before casting their ballot. All photo IDs must contain an expiration date that is current, unless noted otherwise.

    Acceptable IDs include:

    Photo IDs issued by the U.S. Federal Government or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania:

    Pennsylvania driver’s license or non-driver’s license photo ID (IDs are valid for voting purposes 12 months past expiration date)

    Valid U.S. passport

    U.S. military ID - active duty and retired military (a military or veteran’s ID must designate an expiration date or designate that the expiration date is indefinite).

    Military dependents’ ID must contain an expiration date

    Employee photo ID issued by Federal, PA, County or Municipal government

    Photo ID cards from an accredited Pennsylvania public or private institution of higher learning

    Photo ID cards issued by a Pennsylvania care facility, including long-term care facilities, assisted living residences or personal care homes

    If you do not bring your ID on Election Day, vote with a provisional ballot. Don’t leave without voting!


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    Gasp!! How HORRIFIC!! THE UNSURMOUNTABLE ROADBLOCKS !!!!!!!

    How will the IMAGINARY VOTERS who DO NOT HAVE, and CANNOT OBTAIN, ANY OF THESE IDs GOING TO VOTE??
    It's apparent that REAL, LIVE , LEGAL VOTERS will have no problems...
     
  3. Badmutha

    Badmutha New Member

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    Whats restrictive about FREE VOTER ID?.
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  4. Frowning Loser

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    Wow there's a lot of accusations here. But lets look at the biggest where you state 57,435 voter registrations were tossed out by PA officials. My information tells me that Acorn alerted the PA officials to any fraudulent registrations. But maybe you know more than I do.
    Here's what your link says:

    2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

    Here's what your post says:
    2008
    State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.

    This looks like a massive CUT AND PASTE JOB. CUT AND PASTE JOB. CUT AND PASTE JOB. CUT AND PASTE JOB. CUT AND PASTE JOB.
    So besides repeating your own right wing link word for word do you have any other links that show that all PA voting officials verified 57,435 fraudulent registrations the majority of which were ACORNs
     
  5. Dispondent

    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I see I was ignored, but this appears to be government regulation, which liberals keep saying is necessary in so many aspects, but why not this? To rail against this would seem hypocritical.... Anyone?????
     
  6. The Real American Thinker

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    Two facts:

    1) You are more likely to get struck by lightning than for voter fraud to occur.

    2) Voter ID laws are not constitutional as they infringe on a person's right to vote.
     
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    Dispondent Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You fail to address the issue of regulation, which seems to be a huge plank in your platform... how is this regulation so wrong?????
     
  8. Mac-7

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    Not to mention making it difficult for Democrats to cheat and win elections.

    We understand.
     
  9. The Real American Thinker

    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    Being okay with some regulation does NOT mean you have to be okay with ALL regulation.
     
  10. The Real American Thinker

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    No, you really don't, but it's okay. I know you don't actually care to understand. You are comfortable being a partisan hack.
     
  11. Mac-7

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    I value my vote and don't want it stolen from me by some ex-convict who votes under someone else's name.

    It is not unreasonable to ensure that only qualified voters vote.

    All these lib objections are just a smokescreen to cover up their corruption.
     
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    I value my vote and don't want it stolen from me by some ex-convict who votes under someone else's name.

    It is not unreasonable to ensure that only qualified voters vote.

    All these lib objections are just a smokescreen to cover up their corruption.
     
  13. The Real American Thinker

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    Again: you're more likely to get struck by lightning than for actual voter fraud significant enough to impact elections to happen.

    You can do that without voter ID laws, which have been proven to affect legal voters.

    Not true. I object because I know what it's like to be poor and trying to get a new ID.
     
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    I don't have a crystal ball like the libs here so I really don't know for sure how much cheating goes on.

    You could be right that it is minimal although I seriously doubt it.

    But it's better to be safe than sorry.

    Or as Ronald Reagan used to say "trust but verify."

    A state issued picture id verifies that the person is who they say they are.
     
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    It's also common to have a "by invitational only" at many events. You are not proposing that only people invited personally by Obama to vote should be allowed to do so, are you?
     
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    Where's there any logic in this statement??? OK - how about this - it's also common at many events to have people with hemorrhoids dig at their ass. You are not proposing that only people WITHOUT hemorrhoids be allowed to vote, are you?

    Or, so the brain-dead can understand, things that are "common at many events" implies nothing in regard to who should or shouldn't be allowed to vote.
     
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    People who really care already have one. This whole thing is a madeup "problem".
     
  18. darckriver

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    No surprise there since "made up problems" constitutes one of the chief categories of ingredients in the Left's fuel.
     
  19. SamVimes

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    "I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of the people. They never have been from the beginning of our country and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down." - Paul Weyrich

    This is a quote from the co-founder of ALEC. ALEC is the group pushing voter ID laws and drafting these bills. Their intent is voter suppression.
     
  20. AceFrehley

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    Huh? You're under the impression there's a Constitutional right to vote? I suggest you "think for yourself" and do some Googling on the topic.

    In the mean time, I just LOVE the scare tactics. 750,000 people might not get to vote! Oh my god!

    Yeah right. You liberals crack me up.

     
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    I am sure the same folks that go around registering voters can figure out a way to get them am ID , it is all just a way to distract voters from real issues
     
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    Awww.... hold on while I cue up some violin music. If a person can't produce an ID to do things like cash a check, buy a beer or vote, then tough (*)(*)(*)(*) for them. Suck it up, get an ID and quit whining.
     
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    Because it's literally impossible to prove. The fact that you don't even have to show that you are who you say you are makes it really easy to be whoever you need to be for the purposes of voting. The only reason I can't prove to you that someone could drive to polling place after polling place voting all day is because quite literally there's no checks against doing so. Which is why most businesses would require an Id of some sort when purchasing such things as guns, alcohol, and tobacco (in many states cold meds as well). The list of things you cannot do without said ID is pretty long. Without an ID, you can't do most things that make a reasonable lifestyle possible.

    No ID:
    No legal job,
    no bank account,
    no driving,
    no flying,
    no entering a courthouse,
    no OTC cold meds,
    no alcohol,
    no tobacco,
    no guns,
    no mortgage,
    no renting an apartment.

    Yet we are supposed to believe that voter IDs would remove 3/4 of a million people from the voting booths? How, when basic survival in the US practically requires an ID? Are there 3/4 of a million people living in cardboard boxes?
     
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    Voter ID laws could prevent 1,237,000 dead people from voting. The operative word is "could" but I suspect it won't. The Democrats could help their developmentally disabled voters get IDs. The operative word is could but I suspect they won't because Voter ID requirments interferes with dead people voting, people voting repeatedly, foreign nationals voting, but it still leaves a lot of room for traditional Democrat fraud. Cntinuing. Legal efforts by an army of lawyers current being trained by Democrat operatives could result in tens of thousands of serving military voters being disenfranchized. Democrats have never wanted military votes counted anyway. Military people not only work but their work puts their life on the line for the (*)(*)(*)(*)ry so Democrats aren't likely to get many votes there. But, again, the operative would is could. And it could. Of course, it could. The OP could have an epiphany and say, "My god, the socilaists might have sold me a bill of goods." The operative phrase is might have.

    I get very tired of people hyping so-called news artlces full of weasel words like could, might, will possibly, may, can conceivably, is thought to be, is indicated, suggested, has been said to. and new ones every day. I was fed up with reading about what the Supreme Court might do, had been suggested they could do, was thought to be planning to do that by the time they actually did something it was anti-climatic. Add to that the penchant for the media and political hacks to outright lie and it difficult to plow through the crap.
     
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    I don't understand the problem the Democrats seem to have with making sure whoever votes in our election's is an actual qualified and legal voter. One has to have a photo I.D. to do just about anything in this country. It's hard to believe that 750,000 people in Pennsylvania don't have one and CAN'T get one. The elderly can get them through nursing homes and assisted living places. In my state, they will be provided through the state FREE for those who don't have one.

    Other countries have a much more secure voting process than we do. What's the point of NOT doing so?
     
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