Why the War on Drugs is Constitutional, Will Never End, and Shouldn't

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  1. Daggdag

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    They can be addictive, but only if a person's brain chemistry already works like that. The same way you get sex and gambling addicts.
     
  2. Daggdag

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    I know what you mean, I was watching some Tom and Jerry on some acid the other day and I swear that they came out of the tv and raped me.....It freaked me the hell out.
     
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    Man high on PCP eats his child's eyes out

    www.turnto23.com/east_county/19473681/detail.html
     
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    Yeah, some people will get addicted to anything pleasurable. I bet some people could even get addicted to being kicked in the nuts. But I meant physically nonaddictive, of course.
     
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    Why don't they, you know, prosecute him for the actual crime, eating his kids eye?

    And why didn't the drug laws save this childs eye?
     
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    it is known, with medical evidence to back it, that PCP causes behavior that can be harmful to others. I do believe it should be illegal, even if other drugs are legalized. The whole legalization argument depends on the fact that a drug only effects the person using. This is not true in the case of PCP.
     
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    Imprison and prosecute for the crime committed under the influence. Not everyone on PCP is gonna eat someones eyeball. And making it illegal won't stop users anyhow, see the current drug wars and Prohibition.

    And Alcohol makes a lot of people violent, why are you not calling for Prohibition to be brought back?
     
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    Gotta disagree. Keeping some drugs legal will keep the black market for them alive, with the resulting violence and whatnot. PCP is bad, sure, but I'm with XL, prosecute for the actual attack, not for whatever drugs he was on. Some dumbasses are just gonna get (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up, nomatter what. Even if somehow the drug war was totally effective (never gonna happen), they would still huff paint or something.
     
  11. Daggdag

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    Well eating someone's eyeballs is one of the crazier things done on it. but it is far from the only thing.

    One guy injured 14 people while running naked through a grocery store wearing cold cuts all over his body and calling himself The Meat-Man.

    He ended up running into a stack of 30 lb cans and being crushed to death. and dying. He caused millions of dollars with of damage, and injury. I think he was featured on an episode of 1000 ways to die.

    Another man nearly killed his family because he thought they were monsters.

    This type of behavior is caused directly by the use of PCP and can not be attribited to anything else.

    I will admit that medical research shows that it takes a certain dose of the drug to cause this type of behavior. So legalizing and heavily regulating it's use could also be an answer.
     
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    What's the obsession with things being constitutional?

    Some things are bad, some are good - constitutional things can still be bad.
     
  13. fifthofnovember

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    If we had only had laws against PCP, this never would have, oh wait, nevermind.
     
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    Why can't you people just accept the god (*)(*)(*)(*)ed double standard society sets for you and be (*)(*)(*)(*)ing happy? Alcohol has been a part of western culture for so long it is almost universally acceptable. That is just the way things are. Accept them.

    I'm not subsidizing the (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up children that result from drug abuse homes. I don't care what anyone says, a home where one or both parents is a drug users IS A BAD BROKEN HOME AND (*)(*)(*)(*)S THE KIDS UP.

    Drug abusers screw up the lives of everyone around them. Their kids, their parents, everyone who cares about them. Responsible use of drugs is simply impossible and I want it punished.. harshly.
     
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    Well I am for legalization of most drugs, since there is no evidence of them causing this type of behavior, but I support keeping PCP illegal, or heavily regulating it's use.
     
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    Doubleplusgood brother. Doublethink is part of the culture. Love it.
     
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    Not all drug users abuse them, or are even addicted. I use pot all the time. I have never driven under the influence and my use has never effected anyone but me. So your claim that it's impossible to use drugs responsibly is wrong.

    Also, do you feel this same way about legal drugs? They cause even more harm than the illegal ones.
     
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    Not to mention how bad it is growing up with alcoholic parents, I mean how doubleplusgood it is.
     
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    Or alcohol. Oh, wait...
     
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    Who gives a flying (*)(*)(*)(*) what's been part of Western Culture? Oh, so it's been around longer, it's okay? If you don't use the drug I like, you should go to prison? What idiotic logic. Responsible use of drugs is impossible you say.....yet, you ramble about how much alcohol is a part of our culture, and just to accept it......? Do you read some of the crap you post? Such hypocritical and illogical nonsense.

    I don't want to subsidize them either. But this seems like selective outrage. Big corporations and global bankers run our government, and are essentially subsisted by the taxpayer with corporate welfare through loopholes, bailouts and such, yet I don't see you (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ing about that.
     
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    Yes, well, the families of the thousands of innocent bystanders that your stupid, evil and insane drug war has killed in the USA alone certainly thank you for your efforts.

    The fact is, your claims are reliably the exact, diametric opposite of the truth, and that fact does not matter to you one whit.
     
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    You already are.
    Your also paying to care for children whose parents have been imprisoned for non-violent drug offenses.
     
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    My feelings aren't based in logic adn I don't care how hypocritical it seems to you. Every parent who uses drugs is committing child abuse. Plain and simple. If prohibition of drugs keeps even one child from suffering the fate I did, then it works.
     
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    But prohibition doesn't work.
     
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    I don't beleive that. Even if it doesn't. It punishes and makes drug users have to live under the boot of the Police State and that is satisfaction in and of itself.

    Everytime I hear some druggie whine about jail time. I revel in it and bask in it.
     
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