The Experiment.

The following is an account of a hypothetical experiment. While every precise detail cannot be accounted for, the general premise of the experiment is what really matters.

There are two islands, each with precisely the same climatic conditions, which are fair.

One each island are placed 50 children, aged (maybe) 5-10 yrs of age, reflective of the general population. Kids that went on each island, would be selected at random, so that there would be no bias.

The experiment will last....one decade.

One the first island, the children are permitted to break up boredom, by enjoying the vast library of books, that are available to them, including classics. They could further make use of technology, with for example, a Kindle, to further their reading. Internet access would be restricted entirely to that which would augement the first mentioned. The diet of the children of this island would be closely thought out, with an inclination for fresh fruit and veg. No drugs would ever be allowed on the island, aside for medical use. Pornography would be forbidden, however, reading erotica, classic erotica, would be feasible.

Children are strictly taught not to use profanity. No drink allowed on island. Music is encouraged, however, while the natives can listen to others music, the are mainly encouraged to create their own. If they are listening to other music, then while they can choose for an eclectic style, any genre that glorified violence and sexual sadism, would be prohibited.

Children would be raised to understand that the world outside of the island was a diverse and wonderful place, and that while the children may differ from others that they see, at the end of the ten years, it does not make them superior. Non violence is taught as being an absolute virtue, yet lessons are given in a discipline of defence, such as Krav Maga or some such. Violence would be seen as an absolute slight on one's self, and only ever to be used as an absolute last resort.

For ten years, that is what those 25 kids would mainly soak up.

Meantime...

On the other island, the other 25 kids, who are there for ten years also...


To alieviate boredom, kids are permitted to play PC games, esp those of a violent and war like nature. Kids can have usupervised access to the internet, and decide what they want to see. There will be no books, and reading shall not be encouraged, or mandatory.

The diet of these kids will consist, for the sake of speed, a lot of fast food, and processed foods. Profanity is not discouraged, and sometimes laughed and, and found to be 'good'. Drink is gradually introduced to the island, slowly at first, then with unfettered access. Any sort of music can be listened to, however, there is an inclination for tracks that include the celebration of killing or sex crime.

Children on this island are taught that they are special, from everyone else, and that everyone not on this island was a potential threat, one way or another. This would be repeated. Often. Other cultures and the world outside were now something to see with suspicion.

The rule of might is right, would be prompted and allowed, among one another, and be seen as the model for all things. Thus, if one CAN do a thing, this makes it okay. They would have no formal training in a fight discipline.


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It is 2022.

The 25 kids from the first island and those of the second are placed together.

How do YOU think it plays out?

 

I think that Group #2 would try to exploit and possibly eat Group #1. But Group #2 would get their butts krav maga'd, and then rehabilitated.

 

Eat?

It's not the Hills have Eyes!

 

I did a report on cannibalism in high school (I was one of those kids). Humans taste GREAT, apparently, especially to other humans. The only thing that keeps us from eating each other is social stigma and the extension of family-bonding that most of us experience as a general investment in the welfare of the human race. In the absence of either of those things, the selfish kids will try to eat the non-selfish kids. The non-selfish kids will be better martial artists, though.

I may be thinking of a Japanese movie I saw once. But I'm sticking with my theory.

 

Did you ever see Ravenous? Great movie.

 

I am really not seeing that as a plausible outcome, but no matter.

 

Oh, yeah. The musical score really makes that movie. Genius, to have scenes where two men are ripping each other to pieces in the hopes of eating each other, set to light-hearted banjo music.

 

It's not a film review thread.

Thanks

 

Then what kind of thread is it? You're describing a scenario of kids on an island together without any description of parental involvement where one group is trained to be idealists and live in utopia only to take them off the Shire and place them with ghetto kids and you think that Lord of the Flies won't start to happen relatively quickly?

 

The children from the second island will take advantage of the good nature of the children on the first island, as the children of the first island help those of the second the children of the second island will become more demanding. When the children of the first island refuse to comply with the insane demands of the children of the second island, the children will apologize and offer the children of the first island a months supply of coconut water. Because the group on the first island are so trusting most of them will consume this coconut water and die from rat poisoning, five or six will survive because they hadn't consumed any of the bad coconut juice before seeing what happened to their comrades. The children of the second island will then overpower the remaining children of the first island with their numbers and weapons( the other kids didn't make any because the world was all rainbows and unicorns) beating them raping them and confining them and their children to slavery.

 

^^ This

 

Eating human flesh for more than a month causes violent seizures.

 

And how would anyone know that?

Not that it is really appropriate to the discussion.

 

I'm not sure about the time frame, but yeah, it's not actually good for you. Which makes me wonder why it tastes so good.*

The biggest thing I worry about, in terms of Group #1, which I find myself rooting for, is that Group #2 will have all the porn, right? They can probably trade that for all kinds of goods and lull Group #1 into a sense of false security.

*Or so I hear ...

 

They aren't easy to find, but there are still a few tribes out there that practice cannibalism. Mostly the kind where you eat pieces of your dead relatives after they die. They suffer from a greater amount of some kinds of encephalitis (I think it was encephalitis) than most populations do. Probably related to Mad Cow Disease.

And, hey, it's a couple of islands with a small number of people. Cannibalism will probably come up sooner or later, and greatly shape the politics from that point onward.

 

Just like fast food, coffee brandy, sweets, and salty snacks.

 

True! I hadn't thought of that.

 

History would suggest that group 2 would dominate and suppress group one. From the Assyrians and their more peace-full neighbors to the Empires of Europe. In more detail take Spain and the Inca whom had mastered a form of brain surgery, advanced pharmaceuticals, excellent infrastructure, coded recorded language for keeping record with rope naughts and an advanced monarchy that successfully perfected communism without using currency, a completely successful rationing system run by the state, all goods are produced and distributed by the state, some thing Europeans would try, but never accomplish. The Spanish came in with their exposure to European violence, disease, alcohol, guns and self entitlement and destroyed the Inca, enslaving her people.

Ok, so i know I'm painting the Inca as a little more saintly than they are, but neither would the children on the first island, after all human nature isn't always sunshine and butter flies.

 

They have FOOD.

 

Long Pig, its whats for dinner!

Only 25 to life per serving

WARNING Consuming the brain of long pig may result in laughing disease the human equivalent of mad cow.

 

Not a cinema thread.

A social experiment.

And people's considered thoughts about it.

 

Its turning into a cannibalism thread, just saying.

 

Possible outcome.

The kids from the second island, who would now be between 15-20(ish), would be more aggressive, unruly, randomly violent, not at all intelligent, hostile, with an almost neurotic sense of fear/attack.

If the two groups were then placed on the same island, it is possible that they would show immediate aggression to the other, and perhaps even dominate...for a time.

But remember, as prone to aggression as they may be, they have not read, they have no educated themselves in anything, and, therefore, they will be a shambles, in reality, relying ONLY on a quick predisposition for more aggression.

That is really their only advantage, and, even then, the others, while taught violence is a LAST resort, have then been trained, for ten years, in a particular method, which is actually really really effective, off the scale so.

That + their superior intellect (remember, that library would also include books on how to create effective weapons), would, imo, eventually see them dominate, or subdue the other.

 

Well, thanks to your response, and mine to it, we have turned it back to what it was intended to be.

 

There is no ties in between video games and violence.
Anyway this island two is an pretty obvious reference to the United States and the west in general, and the island one the Middle East... Too bad that is a complete lie. The Middle East is actually having an obesity problem due to an obession with Fast Food and video games, they just want to blame someone for their problems and attack another cultures way a living when they themselves to the exact same thing.

So I would say that when the two islands are put together the first island will hate the second and send attacks to the second island even though they do the same things but island one needs to hate island two. So they simple hate island two for being island two. This then would result is island two counterattacking island one, along with some help from some island one people how noticed that they aren't so different after all and that their island one leaders were simply leading their people into a hate war to hold thier ever weaken grisp on power. Thus result in the few island one one that started the attack being removed and the rest living in peace with island two where the both can work together to benefit each other.