You know what's wrong with America? The people.

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  1. FixingLosers

    FixingLosers New Member

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    There are over 761 US military bases across this planet in over 130 nations, the funny thing is, every pro-strong defense con that you encounter will tell ya with a straight face he/she is for a small government.

    And guess what? Libs are even more hilarious: they are so pro-peace, so anti-war and all about poor people that they can't stand any notion remotely suggesting austerity measures for the semi-fascist, #1 militaristic government on earth.

    Actually, there were more than one libs who said "I enjoy paying property tax" in my face after I told them, your tax doesn't really just go to the maintenance of roads and infrastructure alone, but also to the pocket of rich bankers and arm dealers.


    You have to LOVE the American people, they are just so precious. You have to wonder, have American just got too comfy enjoying the bliss of ignorance or they just don't care?

    This is the kind of amusement that you just couldn't help but appreciate once a while in a day and let out a heartfelt and genuinely confused smile. Every time I think about this, I just have to ask "Really? Really?"

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  2. Awryly

    Awryly New Member Past Donor

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    One day they will awaken and start to ask how they can afford all this crap when their household wealth is diminishing to 2nd, and in some cases 3rd, world levels.
     
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    GOPers say we can afford all that easily...no problem...just take poor people's welfare, medicare, and education...It's all poor people's fault, you know. NOT the fat cats.
     
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    Small government does not mean no government. For some reason, people like to try to accuse conservatives/libertarians of being hypocritical unless they are complete anarchists. Which is stupid.

    The apathy of the general American public is largely to blame for the state of the country, though.
     
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    Stuart Wolfe Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which party is in charge of paying for all of that right now? I wasn't aware Obama was a member of the GOP.
     
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    It's mad I tell you, pure M.A.D.
     
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    Not really. With the quality of soldiering by the US military these days, their government would rather have them away than at home. And the countries that permit them to loiter only do so for the US dollars generated.

    One day the American public will wake up, but not too soon hopefully. A good living is made by a high number of people in other countries at the expense of those who actually pay taxes in the US. Meanwhile, the Corporations that don't pay taxes but supply equipment are those taking (instead of paying) the taxes on the home front.
     
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    I actually wrote a paper on cutting the defense budget while not cutting the pay of the service members. Plus being pro-military doesn't mean we're all pro-global bases. I think we need to withdraw our troops from some of the countries and bring them back home.
     
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    Subdermal Banned

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    Apparently, leftists cannot grasp the concept of how large a small Government could actually be when compared to the behemoth we're saddled with at present.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    When was the last time any US government wasn't a bureaucratic behemoth?
     
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    liberalminority Well-Known Member

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    What? Foreigners must take us for idiots....The reason why we are superior in the world is because of our military, that is called simple logic a child can understand.

    All money first goes to protection, then maybe conquest of Europe, Canada, and the Antipode nations, but defense spending comes before any welfare whether social security, health care, or social welfare expendatures.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    You're right, we do take you for idiots-terminally broke idiots.
     
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    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    When you say you are pro-small government it would behoove you to vote in politicians that vote in ways that are pretty darn close to actual "small government" and if they don't vote against your party the net year to remove them.

    I don't mind military spending if it protects the troops, but I also think that it is high time we stop being the world's police force. I'd bring our troops out of foreign countries and you will see how this not only affects the budget but how much people hate us and want to kill us. No one would like a foreign government's troops on their home soil. No one. We would hate it, but we seem to think that since we're "the good guys" they should just instantly know this and be cool with it.

    It just doesn't work that way.

    Also, I do think that our government now treats its citizens like criminals and suspects and I'd like to see that funding cut so they don't have the funds to watch every aspect of our lives. That is not only "big government" but intrusive government.

    Agreed.
     
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    To the OP You do know that the same thing is true of virtually every other country in the world? It is also the best thing about virtually every country in the world including the US. Every country has its horse's rear ends. We might disagree about who they are and that disagreement may have more to do with political beliefs than anything else but it's the only reference point we have here.
     
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    Strawman much? How many people of any political persuasion say they "enjoy" paying any tax?

    Property tax typically goes to supporting local schools and the local police and firemen. Interstate highways are do not usually get their funding from property tax.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    So you'll have no problem with massive cuts. That's a good thing. Appreciate your input.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Jealousy of the U.S. does not look good on you.

    I'm sure you have what you need, you just need to utilize it. :)
     
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    Your exactly correct.
     
  19. FixingLosers

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    Reduce the figure to 300, a huge deal can be saved and tax can most certainly be lowered, or at least put to real good use.

    Is that anarchism? Don't think so.

    Does America have so many vicious enemies all around the globe, that all those 761 bases are necessary? Then the diplomacy of America is not a disaster, it's a bloody nightmare.
     
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    The bases are there to head off problems quickly before they require more effort to deal with down the road. You have to weigh the pro's and con's on this issue.

    Had we had bases in Poland in 1938 and were able to respond quickly with a pre-established army I doubt Hitler would have steamrolled through Europe thereby preventing millions upon millions of deaths.

    It is this large number of bases that allowed us to go head to head with the Soviet Union in multiple areas all over the world, eventually winning out over communism. Now you have to ask yourself if dismantling our military and ending our global influence is worth having to respond to another large crisis such as a world war and the cost and time it will take to rebuild our forces in order to meet the challenge. Or would it be better if we maintained a high level of preparedness.
     
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    Bless your heart. You are my dancing and singing strawman.
     
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    FixingLosers New Member

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    Jealousy? Yea I'm Jealous I don't have enough time and money to hire a guy to put all my money off shore like all other guys that are loaded do.
     
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    Yeah...I knew it. All that welfare to big oil and fat cat bank bailouts takes its toll, no doubt. Darn poor people....always ruining everything!
     
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    Come to think of it, they don't have a clue what is going on.

    They have attained nirvana.
     
  25. FixingLosers

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    Question #1: Why would the Poles allow US to install a military base in their soil in the first place?

    Question #2: Why would the death of millions of Europeans be obligatory to the U.S.?


    Hahaha, you are a fool if you think like that. All collective system is doomed to fail from the very start.

    Tell me, where would this world war take place, and who would be the belligerents?

    Is it really that fun putting so much money on shadow-boxing?
     

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