Mexican-American olympian displays Mexican flag after winning medal

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  1. SpaceCricket79

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    If he was from Mexico then I'm fine with it, if he is just Hispanic by birth but born in the US then it's kind of silly. It would be like a white Anglo-Saxon American waving a UK flag.
     
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    @Mac-7

    You're too hostile. Let's take a couple of steps back, relax and try to soften the impact of our words. Look man, I understand where you're coming from and I agree that the situation could perhaps be considered as a taunt to conservatives and maybe even some liberals of America.

    I am open and supportive about whatever it is you want to do to this man and his family. For instance you may want to deport him. In which case, which agency would you get to violate the US constitution by deporting a legal US citizen?

    You're obviously a very conservative conservative and a true American patriot. When you see such images of ungrateful US citizens like Manzano, do you feel vindicated about legislation you were mortally opposed to that you believe lead up to this horrible, horrible Olympic fiasco?

    You’re the president of America, how would you go about fixing this particular situation so that it won't be repeated in, say, Rio 2016?
     
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    He came to America when he was 5.

    What has Mexico ever done for him?

    Nada.

    The guy is an ungrateful idiot.
     
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    I regret the 1986 amnesty signed by Ronald Reagan.

    It was a mistake because it lead to ungrateful (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s like this guy.

    But a deal is a deal.

    He was given amnesty and US citizenship so there is nothing we can do about it now.

    But we can avoid making the same mistake with the 20 to 25 million illegals seeking amnesty today.
     
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    Mexico was his birth country so I can understand him having some pride in where he was born. I mean if he was born in Ireland and had an Irish flag then I doubt the reaction would be the same. Now the Hispanic Americans who aren't even born in Mexico, but salute the Mexican flag - I think are pretty stupid.
     
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    This guy came to this country illegally and now is a US citizen.

    If you lashed him with a bullwhip you could not make him give up his citizenship and return to Mexico.

    As they say, he may be dumb but he ain't stupid.

    Mexico sucks.

    And most Mexicans living in America yet waving the Mexican flag while at the same time booing the US soccer team when it plays Mexico in Los Angles know it or they wouldn't be here in the first place.
     
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    He can mere illegally? I did not know that. You have a source?
     
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    I'm just saying look at the facts. Hell, you don't even have to look passed the picture in the OP. JUST off the picture:

    1) He's wearing the U.S. Olympic uniform.
    2) He ran for the U.S. and won us our first silver in his event in 44 years.
    3) The American flag is proudly displayed around him in both hands, framing him, while the Mexican flag is just hanging bundled off to the side in only one hand.

    From this, we can conclude:

    1) He could have taken his training and ran for Mexico, winning them the historic silver instead of us.
    2) He could have not even brought the American flag and just held up the Mexican flag.
    3) He could have displayed the Mexican flag spread out around him, framing him, with the American flag hanging bundled in one hand to the side.

    Logically, reviewing the facts, I don't see how we can conclude that he doesn't love and isn't proud of this country and somehow loves Mexico more.

    I guess I just don't understand how the mere presence, however small, of the Mexican flag invalidates all the other things.
     
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    Read the story.

    His father was an illegal alien who brought the kid to the US when he was 4 years old.
     
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    What about his?
     
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    He was.
     
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    I didn't stop him from waving that offensive flag at the Olympics did I?
     
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    No, but you want to punish him for it and denigrate him for it.
     
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    That's my free speech.
     
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    Until you actually campaign for or attempt to silence him, and then it ceases to be your free speech and becomes a violation of the constitution.

    Of course, the mere fact that you are even entertaining the idea of punishing a man for a simple, harmless act of free speech shows that you are nothing but an authoritarian at heart.
     
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    I havent said anything about punishing him.

    Although I don't think I would buy any product with his endorsement on it.

    Which is an indirect form of punishment I suppose.

    But maybe they could run the ads on Telemundo only.
     
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    Mac-7 do you find it acceptable to politicize everything or do you believe that there should be limits?
    For instance should the bible be politicized? What about separation of church and state or separation of politics from sports?

    Also, what do you propose doing with the "20 to 25 million illegals seeking amnesty"?
     
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    Deport them.
     
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    This is but another reason why I say illegals shouldn't have citizenship. Here is an American,(I think) with split loyalties. Makes me remember the soccer game in California between the US and Mexico where most of the fans were booing the US team. If you live here and are a citizen here, your loyalty should be to this country. Most Americans that have to wait years to get in the legal way are so grateful to be here, their loyalty is to this country. You don't see them flying the Mexican flag on top of an American flag that is upside down on a school flag pole
     
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    He does not have split loyalties.
     
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    Totally disagree with you sir.
     
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    Waving two flags proves the guy has split loyalties.
     
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    You have a right to do so, and I respect that, but you have absolutely no evidence of this while I have pretty clear signs he is loyal to America.
     
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    If that were the case then every person waving the Irish flag in America on St. Patty's Day has divided loyalties.
     
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    Some of them may have divided loyality.

    I think the term Irish-American is just as stupid as African-American or Mexican-American, or Norwegian-American.

    As far as I'm concerned you are either an American or you aren't.
     
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