Dr Wood's claim that 80% of the steel from the towers was turned to dust.

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  1. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the fact that her theory would provide technology that does not exist. Her theory, at least at this day in age, is impossible. It requires a Direct Energy Weapon of a magnitude that is impossible.

    Read this post Of ElMondoHummus quoting R. Mackey. If that doesn't get through to you than I don't know what would. That's is all the evidence you should require.
     
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    So no proof then?
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Uhm, only to the illiterate I guess.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    I also love how you just hand waived away the evidence YOU requested. Did you even bother to read it at all? You asked a question and I provided a thorough explanation as to why that weapon is impossible. Your reply is "so no proof then?"

    Are you challenged? Because that IS the proof. That's the definition of proof.

    Seeing this behaviour always peaks my interest. On some level I want to understand it. Is there something you get out of it? Or is it just for the lulz? Were you ignored as a child and would just like attention?
     
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    Remember when you were a kid and you would blow on an ant hill just to see them run around in a panic?

    Same thing here 8)
     
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    Well first, Elmondo doesn't mention Dr Woods once. Second, Elmondo is giving examples of technologies that we, the public, know about. And Third, Emondo doesn't show any "Proof" what so ever. Evidence, perhaps. But proof? no.

    Just like Dr Woods.
     
  7. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Are you daft? The entire quote is directly related to Dr. Wood's theory. Do you have any idea what you're talking about, or even what Dr. Woods believes? She believes that a Direct Energy Weapon destroyed the Twin Towers turning them into dust before our eyes. It's obviously not true for several reasons, R. Mackey was purely showing how absolutely absurd it is to think a weapon of that magnitude exists. He then couples that with the fact that the weapon she thinks caused the dustruction is impossible to make, by current standards, and those of over a decade ago.

    The fact that it is IMPOSSIBLE to have had, or could currently, exist is proof, in and of itself, that the theory cannot happen. That isn't evidence, it's rock solid fact that can't be disputed. I know in the truther world that it doesn't matter who explains things to you, everyone but you and your ilk are wrong. Sorry champ, you're just wrong on this one.
     
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    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    Are you seeing someone, anyone here panic? So your basically stating that you don't actually care about the facts, evidence or learning anything from this? You are just doing this because you think it incites some fear, or worry out of the people here.

    Good, at least now I can ignore you with no issue. I, generally, like to help people understand or learn something about 9/11. Even if they keep their current belief they can say, "Well that plague guy did make a good point." Since you've exposed yourself I'll leave you to your shallow, empty existence.
     
  9. Fangbeer

    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I'm glad someone else noticed that. I thought it was ironic after I outright asked him if he was here just to troll, he denied, and then followed up with that garbage.

    Classic superiority complex.
     
  10. plague311

    plague311 New Member Past Donor

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    No kidding, one of my biggest pet peeves are people that just don't care about facts. It doesn't make sense to me why you'd waste the time to come and argue. Oh well, to each their own.
     
  11. Emmanuel_Goldstein

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    WHERE DID THE TOWERS GO? is not about a conspiracy theory or a theory at all. It is a 540 page textbook about factual evidence, empirical evidence that reveals the truth in a way that is undeniable to anyone who reads it. Dr. Wood's textbook has not been refuted by anyone, nor can it be. Those that choose to focus on hearsay, speculation, conspiracy theories, or unqualified opinions while ignoring irrefutable factual evidence by avoiding it is what keeps a cover-up in place. Diverting the public to arguing between the two false choices of "9/11 Truthers" (i.e. Fetzer and Gage) verses "The Official 9/11 Conspiracy Theory" while ignoring the facts is classic perception management designed to hide and obscure the evidence.

    It wasn't poor construction, jet fuel, demolition charges of any type, missiles or planes, mini-nukes, or super-duper-micro-mini-nano-thermite that turned two quarter mile high buildings with a combined weight of over a million tons into microscopic dust particles in mid-air taking less than 10 seconds each. There were over 100 floors in each tower. Try clapping your hands 100 times in 10 seconds.

    The truth does not depend on who supports it. Truth is not a club or a matter of “opinion” or "belief". Neither is truth a political or economic objective. Truth doesn’t have sides. The truth is singular and the truth is unifying. By reading Dr. Wood's research and collection of evidence as compiled in her textbook the truth is known, so there is no need to "Re-investigate 9/11". If you want unity, then seek the truth by reading her textbook. If you were assigned to do a book report, would you read the book or rely on rumors, conjecture, and uninformed opinions from other people? This isn't about beliefs, it is about evidence.

    I'm Emmanuel Goldstein and I approve this message
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    And suddenly with this and his 'textbook' BS,Manny degenerates into the 'clunkety-clunk' woman...
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Usain bolt ran 200 meters in 19.19 seconds. Try clapping your hands 200 times in 19.19 seconds.

    Oh snap. We have a contender:

    http://fastestclapper.com/

    Next challenge?

    Sammy Miller's vanishing point holds the quarter mile record for going from zero to 386 mph in 3.58 seconds. Try eating 386 eggs in 3.58 seconds.
     
  14. plague311

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    Hahaha oh man, I thought you were serious for a moment. That was a good one. I mean, you gotta be a poe right?
     
  15. Emmanuel_Goldstein

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    Bob Cinque understands the overwhelming, conclusive, and indisputable evidence Dr. Judy Wood presents that leads to the conclusion of a Directed Energy Weapon "dustifiing" the whole World Trade Center complex. He is also very aware of the perpetrator's effort to cover it up.

    The Oppressor’s Greatest Weapon is the Mind of the Oppressed
    August 27, 2012 by Robert Cinque
    http://cinqueterra.wordpress.com/2012/08/27/the-oppressors-greatest-weapon-is-the-mind-of-the-oppressed/
    The Oppressor’s Greatest Weapon is the Mind of the Oppressed.

    The Oppressor uses our humanity as a weapon against us. Our ability to feel compassion for victims of a crime, to take action in their defense, to hold the perpetrators accountable, is the Controller’s weapon of choice. This is why false flag attacks are staged, to arouse a righteous indignation against the enemy who must be hunted down at any cost.

    This is why those who believe the official government story of 911 about 19 hijackers cannot fathom how anyone could possibly question America’s rise to the occasion in confronting ruthless terrorists who killed innocent people and who somehow have the ability to overcome our $60 Billion defense network and pulverize a million tons of steel and concrete in 10 seconds. Undaunted by the facts of physics, believers in the official story make a cause and effect relationship between planes and fires and the disintegration of the buildings. The fact is the planes and fires had nothing to do with the disintegration of the buildings which was the equivalent of “sticking a pencil through a screen door”, according to the architect of the WTC complex. The fact that the buildings hit the ground in 10 seconds led researchers to conclude that explosives or nukes must have been employed, but further research shows that neither nuclear bombs nor nanothermite could possibly do the job because there were no chunks of the building, no rubble, only dust and a pile of debris not more than 2 stories tall. 110 stories should have produced a pile around 30 stories and we should have seen desks and toilets and big slabs of concrete, but there was mostly just dust. That dust contains within it microscopic iron shperes, smoking gun evidence of aresoled molten steel, caused by high heat and explosives. But what explosive could possibly have turned the buildings to dust in 10 seconds? Furthermore, the Towers should have produced a seismic signal of 6.0, not the 2.3 that was recorded. Dust doesn’t make a thud.

    Whoever demolished the WTC Towers apparently used a weapon that utilizes the nuclear bonds within the molecules of the buildings themselves. The Towers appear to be ripped apart and turned to dust. Forensic scientist and researcher Dr. Judy Wood points out that the Towers look like giant trees that turn to sawdust from the top down, not the bottom up, as in ordinary controlled demolitions. Common building demolitions knock out the lowest floors and use the top of the building a big hammer to fall into its footprint. The Towers disintegrated from the top down. Think about that. What does that mean? It means that most of the buildings never hit the ground, they floated away as .01 micron dust. What kind of energy source has the ability to turn a million tons of matter into fine dust in 10 seconds?

    Fourteen Firefighters trapped on the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th floors of the north Tower survived. They were about to be crushed and kept waiting for the end to come because they knew the building was falling. Instead, they looked up and saw blue sky, 106 stories of building had disappeared above them. Read their compelling testimony in Wood’s historic and comprehensive analysis of 911 “Where did the Towers Go?

    The Towers disintegrated from the top down. The explosives used were apparently the energetic nuclear bonds within the buildings. The mind of the oppressed is used as a weapon in the same way: our ability to feel empathy for the suffering of others. Please don’t allow this precious capacity of the human heart to be used a weapon against you.

    911 was staged as a coux d’etat of the human mind and it is far worse than a sinister conspiracy, it is a relationship that humanity colludes in. We give our power away to the tyrants by our willingness to believe what they say instead of what we observe. It is successful to the extent that we are willing to believe what we are told instead of what we observe.

    The truth is always senior to beliefs about it. The truth is always factual, does not need theories to explain it. Evidence is not theory. Evidence is the artifact truth left behind. We need only to observe the evidence and let it speak. The, we can proceed to bring the real perpetrators to justice.


    Copyright: Bob Cinque All rights reserved. You may republish under the following conditions: An active link to the original publication must be provided. You must not alter, edit or remove any text within the article, including this copyright notice.

    I'm Emmanuel Goldstein and I approve this message
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    I wonder if emmy thinks anyone actually reads his drivel?
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If he doesn't read the stuff he copies and pastes, why should we?
     
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    Duplicate, sorry.
     
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    Why don't you include the full quote when referring to the architect, who actually died that day?

    "The building was designed to have a fully loaded 707 crash into it. That was the largest plane at the time. I believe that the building probably could sustain multiple impacts of jetliners because this structure is like the mosquito netting on your screen door -- this intense grid -- and the jet plane is just a pencil puncturing that screen netting. It really does nothing to the screen netting."

    Yeah, he's talking about a smaller plane, with no fuel in it, lost in the fog, attempting to land at less than 200 mph. In comparison, the WTC towers were hit by 767's, which he admitted didn't exist at the time, fully loaded with fuel, traveling at 450+ mpg. You have to be a special kind of special to not understand that, or willfully ignorant. Take your pick, but lying makes you look desperate.

    There has not been 1 documented researcher with any relevant experience that has concluded there were nukes. None, there are absolutely none at all. You are lying, or referring to woo sites where they approve professors of theology to do the research in fields they have no idea about.

    That's weird that you say there were no chunks, no rubble, only pile less than 2 stories tall. I was forced to take 33 seconds out of my day to do a quick google search, and came up with a picture that shows the rubble. Now, I am not an architect, but that appears to be rubble, a lot of it, with chunks. It also appears that it is a bit taller than 2 stories. Does it get old being wrong?

    As I showed you in the picture above, it showed much more than 2 storeys. However, your number of 30 is completely wrong. The buildings were 90+% air, don't be ludicrous. You can read up on your little seismic crap here by R. Mackey. You can skip to page 42 or just do a ctrl +F and search seismic. I know you won't because it would go against everything you stand for, but in short, you're wrong. Really wrong, and you keep getting more wrong. Ever wonder why Judy Wood is the laughing stock of the scientific community? I'll answer for you, it's because her completely retarded theories don't need to be debunked, they debunk themselves at face value. You posting her alphabet soup after her name doesn't give her more authority, she is nuts.

    No they didn't, they used 2 planes full of jet fuel. They were ripped apart when the fire weakened the building and began a global collapse. Your incredulity not withstanding, of course.

    No, they don't look like that at all, and the collapses weren't from the top down. They began at the impact point of the planes, where the damage was most severe. Keep going though, this is fun.

    I have thought about it, in fact I have probably done more research on accident than you have done on purpose, in regards to 9/11. The towers didn't disintegrate at all, at any point. Your .01 micron is a fictional number you pulled out of nowhere. I already showed that Judy Woods is full of crap. She is mentally ill, and I feel bad for her.

    Oh, well that's good. At least the "dustimification beam" had it's phazer set to "steel building" instead of "human." That way it wouldn't kill any people, only wrecked the steel. Are you serious right now? As if the survival of these people isn't evidence enough to prove the theory is bull(*)(*)(*)(*).

    I have read their quotes, and interviews. They do not support anything Judy Woods has said, at all. They even state information about the collapse coming on top of them, saying, "The building was pancaking down, blasting air down the stairwell. The wind lifted Komorowski off his feet." source.

    No it didn't, I've shown that.

    Right, use the logic, evidence, and real world information by educated scientists, architects, and enigneers to display for you the truth. Go to your local College and ask professors there. Contact local engineers and scientists if you're confused. Take the time to think for yourself, don't listen to these bumbling morons trying to pass their latest information off as fact. If they were that concerned about getting their information out, and bringing the real people to justice than their information WOULD BE FREE. You wouldn't read about it being peddled by their cronies on forums.

    Exactly, and I have shown evidence that displays all of your woo peddling to be bull(*)(*)(*)(*), halfwit, clap trap.


    Pass it on to Bob that I couldn't care less about his copyright.
     
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    Haha, sorry. I'm still new.
     
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    Energetic nuclear bonds?

    Are you claiming a fission or fusion reaction took place? No. What am I thinking? You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.

    Wood supposes that the bonds between molecules were severed, not the bonds between nuclear particles. She's supposing a mechanically induced chemical reaction, not a radioactive one. The WTC was not turned into different elements, according to Wood. She claims it was turned to dust.

    Man, does that "textbook" do a terrible job of educating people that read it or what?

    Or have you even read it EG?
     
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    I wonder if EG knows what the iron limit is and if he understands what that means in regards to his hypothesis that "the explosives used were apparently the energetic nuclear bonds within the buildings."
     
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    Sounds like manny is engaging in the old sci-fi tactic of engaging in technobabble
     
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    Fangbeer Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    [video=youtube;4GOyFAqOevo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GOyFAqOevo[/video]

    Here's a little lesson for EG. Do you think it's a lesson Wood needs to learn too? I think so.
     
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    Propaganda lessons are quite useless when one is looking for the truth.
     
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