Race, politics, and how they are perceived - question

BULL!!


Then why does the ObamaCare bill have 26 separate provisions of Racial Preferences?


Then why did Robert Riche testify before congress that he didn't want stimulus spending jobs go to white men?


Then why did President Obama create and entire new cabinet level "Department of Diversity" by executive order, rather than having go through Congressional Legislation and appointment oversight as it should have?


Then why did Obama's Car Czar send out memos dictating that RACE was to be the primary determining factor on which General Motors Dealerships were to be closed?


Then why did the Attorney General of the United States send a directive to his prosecutors that no more cases of a White Victims with a Black Perpetrator would be pursued?


I could go on and on and on with examples of how this administration is using RACE as a primary determinant in both LAW and Politics.


Grow up! Race Card Politics is a 2012 Reality, and you will either find the strength to face the situation pragmatically, or you will be eliminated.


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Obviously you don't even know what the word "ambiguous" means. Let me define it for you.

ambiguous

(of language) Open to more than one interpretation; having a double meaning.
Unclear or inexact because a choice between alternatives has not been made.

Applying the proper meaning of the word to my post (if you knew what it meant) would reveal that what makes the approval rating "ambiguous" is the fact that there is no clear interpretation as to what the approval was based on. Unlike the actual historic voting support of Blacks for democratic presidential candidates (which my original post was all about). The two issues are mutually exclusive. Because Obama happens to be Black has nothing to do with Blacks supporting democrats. Again the topic of my original post. Now if you'd like to discuss the issue of Black support for democratic presidential candidates I'd be happy to discuss it.

 

Please now, none of that white victimology. I'll answer your question.

The 95% isn't that surprising. The black demographic always votes Dem. Hell, even John Kerry got 88%...John Freakin Kerry! The black demographic represented 11% of the electorate in 2004 and went up to 13% in 2008. So right there you can safely assume that the increase in voter turn out was for the new guy, not the old guy.

And all of that was before black Americans saw George Bush handle hurricane Katrina. Which left quite an impression on them about how that particular party thinks of them...guilt by association.

 

You mean give them stuff. Treat them like second class citizens. Tank the only country in the world that gives them the best opportunities to be successful. Maybe the people in those groups who feel that way should stop wanting to be pandered to and start working with the rest of us to make this country successful.

 

No. I mean address those issues which those groups care about.You know, the ones that affect them the most. Education. Employment. Healthcare. Housing. Immigration. Justice. The policies supported by the GOP would eliminate or reduce the availability of each of those programs. Would the elimination of those programs make them first class citizens? Because they want the same opportunities as white native born Americans does that mean they want to be pandered to? Every GOP candidate panders to the white group only and really only the successful ones in that group. If they want to "poll" better with Blacks, Hispanics and Asians, the future majority, they had better start addressing their issues in a way that's beneficial to them and not just those that are beneficial to the future minority. The ironic thing is that in this economy, the GOP positions on some of the policies I stated above are actually against the best interest of the very group that they are pandering to. That may be why this coming election is as close as it is.

 

I am very familiar with the meaning of ambiguous, his approval numbers are a ''general'' approval of the job that specific person has been doing, and not on any one specific thing.

I understand your post, I was simply comparing their voting record on Obama, and this would include their voting on his job approval. The bias is obvious and can hardly be disputed.

 

Yep...give them stuff. That is your solution. I think its degrading and I think more of people than that! NO one should be grouped or judged by the color of their skin.

Here is what EVERYONE needs...

1. Education - voucher system - parents get to choose the school their kids go to. they are not forced to put their kids into failing school system, but can choose what would be best for their kid.

2. Employment - Stop strangling small businesses with regulations and taxes so they can hire more.
3. Health care - The answer for #2 here as well. If people have more work, they can afford health care.
4. housing??? - there are plenty of houses for those who have jobs and can buy or pay rent.
5. Immigration - come to this country and WORK your ass off and assimilate like the rest of us did. Come want to contribute to the country, not take from it.
6. Justice - not sure what this means. What justice are you looking for?

You are right, we should reduce programs that create dependency in certain groups of healthy, working age adults. This country was created by immigrants by the sweat of their brow. they didn't need "programs" to make it here. Its a recent lie certain groups have been told to keep them subservient. If these people want the "American dream" they are going to have to start thinking like Americans.

 

"their voting record on Obama" is a total of once in 2008 in which he received 95% of the Black vote. Gore's 90% in 2000 and Kerry's 88% in 2004 are not so far off. No one knows what the percentage will be in 2012 but I would not be shocked or think in some type of "bias" if it's in line with the others. Would you?
The "bias" you alluded to in your post is certainly understandable when you consider that it's only been 64 years since the last, documented slave died. You do know that it's quite possible (even likely) that sons and daughters of former slaves actually voted in the last presidential election. With an absolute certainty grandchildren of former slaves did. For Blacks to be biased towards the first Black president to be elected when slavery is merely a parent or grandparent removed from them is somehow criminal to you? I think it's monumental. If they want to be biased in this case I say they have the right be.

 

I think you're missing a very important fact about White People...

Just because a 90% of the CEOs are white men, doesn’t mean that 90% of white men are CEOs!​

http://www.politicalforum.com/elections-campaigns/249280-go-ask-alice.html


The GOP does pander through "Targeted" tax breaks and exemptions to wealthy people.


But 99.99999% of White People are NOT Wealthy!


And today, only about 70% of the wealthy are white.


Yet the Democratic Party treats ALL White People as if they were CEOs.


Well, if you deny the Son or Daughter of a CEO a Scholarship, they'll still get a college education.


If you deny a scholarship to some talented, hardworking, and dedicated student who happens to be a rural Tennessee or Texas white laborers son simply because he's "one of them Rich WHITE PEOPLE!" as Rev. Wright would say, well, he'll never graduate.


I know this from firsthand experience.

We are basing our Affirmative Action policies on what is happening at the top levels of business, government and aristocratic circles, but the denials made to deserving white people based on Affirmative Action are never going affect the people in those top level circles.

But it has a life devastating effect on middle and lower class whites!

It is a feedback control loop completely disconnected from the item it is trying to regulate.

You’re never going to impact the racial makeup of the top levels by denying middle and low income whites a fair and equal opportunity. The concept of Affirmative Action is just a cover / excuse to let the Elites continue to be Elites at the expense of middle and lower class Whites who are 99.9999% innocent on any crime or bias against anyone of another race/gender.

Affirmative Action is a clear case of the Government violating a large group of Americans 14th Amendment rights.

Affirmative Action is unjust and unconstitutional, PERIOD!