The 'New' GOP

Posted this on another thread, but I think it deserves it's own discussion. Especially since the only strategy Obama has is to attack the Republicans... Lord knows he can't run on his own sorry record.

I heard Laura Ingraham say tonight, "This should be a 'gimme' election. Obama is so bad, if the Republicans can't pull this off, they need to all quit and be replaced."

Amen, Laura. That's what I think, too.

Here's the thing about the Republican Party. It's changing as we speak. I know there are many posters here who were too young to really know what 9/11 was all about... but surely everyone is old enough to remember the great shellacking of 2010?

Yeah, yeah, it never happened... just a mid-term election, didn't mean anything. Wasn't a declaration against Barack Obama and the Democrats.

How stupid are you people?

The Republican Party will either move right or get voted out. Now there's where your third party might come in... but not until conservatives have given up on the GOP and that's not happening. Especially after we saw the power of the vote in the mid-terms of 2010.

Join up or get left behind. Your choice.

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Nope, the ones that liberals don't get, are going to the libertarians, and they will take away votes from the republicans.

They are the Ralph Nader of republicans, there is no way to swing them this close to the election.

 

I still see the Tea Partiers voting in droves to sink this socilaist-in-chief. Nothing has changed since the 2010 elections where Conservatism made itself be felt with the takeover of congress. This time however these same people will be voting for a president; and therein lies the hope we need in saving America from this current nightmare. Regardless of the Nov outcome I do think that the label of a Republican Party will disappear and a new label might very well be "The Conservative Party" by elininating those dangerous RINOs from the game all together. Look, the difference between the marxist socialists and the Capitalist Conservatives couldn't be more stark. Either you want a nation of lazy un-productive goof-offs, or you want a nation of hard working goal-oriented producers

 

Romney and Ryan both have my respect, support and my vote.


BUT! As the Gipper said, "Trust, but verify!"


I will give Romney and Ryan the same open minded consideration and opportunity that I gave President Obama.


If they let America down, then 2016 will be Bitter for the Republicans.

 

I see the same thing, LH. And I think the naysayers are wrong... the mid-terms were ALL ABOUT BARACK OBAMA.

 

The mid terms were/are a knee jerk reaction from voters, they happen to all new incumbents, its how voters deal with the shock of new policies, and does not signify any progress for the old party.

 

Their feet will be held to the fire, there's no question about that. Have you seen the list of issues Romney agrees to be judged on? I'll find it and post. Can you imagine Barack agreeing to a scorecard?

 

Honestly, It should not be hard for them to achieve such goals.



President Obama and the Democrats COULD have acheived most of those milestones, if they were not so busy pursuing "Revolution and Transformation" via the Cloward-Piven Strategy.


It will amaze some Americans how easily "good" can be accomplished when one is simply trying to acheive "good".


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That's pre-Tea Party thinking. Catch up, LM... it's 2012.

 

Te tea party controls bread and butter republican states, liberals control the all important swing states, they pose no threat.

 

I've already had more than enough to vote Gary Johnson

You should too. The GOP will never deliver. They and the Democrats are all sucking on the same corporate teats. The corruption is rampant. The fact that the only presidential debates are controlled by a private entity under the control of those two parties, as well as the fact that the corporate media support only those parties, should give you pause.

 

Our electoral system is the Russia of the west.

 

You might just find that there are a surprizing number of TEA Party supporters in "Lite-Blue" states...

 

Laura is getting too emotional. Regardless if they lose this election I don't believe they need to all quit and be replaced. Just imagine if that really happens, how scary will that be...I mean somebody got to keep those extremists liberal wackos in check...lol

 

Basically you guys went too far into centrist progressive territory and lost the Ron Paul liberty types to Gary Johnson through dirty tricks, lies by Fox News, and other shenanigans and want us to forget about that now and come back to a man who is so terrible that he can't even beat Obama on his record...what does that say about Mitt again?

How about YOUR GUYS make concessions to US and see if we vote for you, or better yet...vote with us.

 

Hey the bold is just like Romney!

 

Johnson's a good man... but he can't win. A vote for Gary Johnson is a vote for Barack Obama. Think before you do that to our country. I'm not sure we can survive another 4 years of Obama.

 

Same advice. I know you mean well... but a vote for Johnson is a vote for Obama.

 

You mean this record?



(try to keep in mind Romney's never been POTUS, so he actually has NO record... unlike Barack Obama whose presidential record you'll notice on the left side of this chart.)

 

You have a point... we'll keep the Tea Party Republicans and everybody else has to go. Even my Congresswoman, Eddie Bernice Johnson (D) who's been in office since dinosaurs roamed the earth.

 

Conservatives who are hostile to capitalism, particularly stock market capitalism, are called fascists. This is what is happening in America right now. The old lie that Nazism is a variation on the Left is born out of the hostility of Nazis to capitalist corporations, a populism they share with leftists. This hostility is strong in the Tea Party. The reality is that Nazism and fascism arose with the support of conservatives and in the face of the overwhelming hostility of the centre and the Left. This is what is happening in the USA.

Americans on the whole are decent people. The fascists won't win. They may be the base of the GOP but when they elect a candidate that they truly like, they will be pulverized. Their only chance is to get an unprincipled, flip flopping, CEO like Romney. They might manipulate him. That's the danger...Romney wins as a centrist and then is too weak to resist his Tea Party base.

 

Get a clue pal, everything you just posted is the exact opposite. Pick up a copy of "Liberal Fascism" by Jonah Goldberg and start doing your homework.

 

Meaningless abuse. No more than can be expected.

Ideas elude the Tea Party and their debvating skills are non existent. They love furiously agreeing with each other and can only meet someone they disagree with with abuse or hysteria. Unable to articulate ideas themselves they refer you to one of their pop gurus whose substandard drivel is read (if they can of course) only by Tea Party members themselves.

It is strange that this post should remind me of this so much.

 

I hear you. In Montgomery County Ohio, a swing county in a swing state, we got rid of more than 50 RINO Precinct Captains and replaced them with about 200 TEA Party Patriots. We kicked out the President of the Montgomery County Republican Party and replaced him with a Tea Party leader. It was a complete takeover. We added 100 Captain chairs in all. It was a blow out. There is no need for a new party when you can simply take over the one that should be doing what they say they should but don't.

 

It is said one has to hit rock bottom before any upward mobility can be seen. Yes the Nation can survive another 4 years of Obama esp. with a Republican Congress. In fact, the real point of change is convincing or forcing people to see the obvious which isn't so easy. What we can not survive is the population such as yourself refusing to see the obvious or that with a Romney Win, the same things go on as they have over the last few decades. Inother words you can change up the seating on the Titanic but the end effect doesn't change. The progressive of the left an right know this, sure vote Romney yet don't expect that fools game to go by uncontested.