Why would god create 1500 bisexual/gay species if he hates homosexuality? Part II

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  1. Til the Last Drop

    Til the Last Drop Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Consensual sex is just that. No one has a right, even as a society, to dictate behavior, so long as that individual isn't hurting another. Whether it is "natural", or present in the animal kingdom, is irrelevant. So should society have a right to ban behavior if it isn't present in the animal kingdom? Ludicrous. This line of thinking can cause more problems than it is worth. I'm sure it can get frustrating for homosexuals at times, but you must still remember there is a bigger picture to which your tunnel vision can blind you from. To trade freedom for freedom is to gain nothing. No concession need be made. And this line of logic could cost you more than it's worth.
     
  2. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Nope and red herring.

    Claim: Homosexuality is unnatural.
    Rebuttal: Homosexuality appears in 1,500 species.
    Result: Claim debunked. End of argument.

    You are ignoring the obvious. The argument is not attempting to justify jack (*)(*)(*)(*). The argument is debunking a very specific claim.

    Do you have anything else to add?
     
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    garyd Well-Known Member

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    Your statement that the argument is moot lacks proper authority to declare it so.

    Ineed sir it is your counter argument that is couched in folly.
     
  4. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Your argument has absolutely nothing to do with the argument presented by the OP.

    Your point is moot.
     
  5. Hawkins

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    Whether gay is in born is still controversial.

    Only Adam and Eve is out of defect. Since the following may lead to defect of human gene pools.

    1) Inter marriage between close relatives but without God's blessing.
    This not uncommon among the Jews in ancient times, but the Jews are the blessed. That's why out of 600 more Nobel prize winners 200 more are from the Jews blood line.

    2) Possible inter breeding between humans and other homo erectus.

    So today's human gene pools are not without defects. These defects are not a creation of God.

    Gay is considered sinful for a reason. God's Law is basically designed in accordance to what would happen in the future eternity called heaven. He's the only one knows how to rule an eternity. So if it is said in His Law that gay is a sin, then it could mean that they are not suitable for living in this designed eternity called heaven. That's the possibility.
     
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    Whether gay is in born is still controversial.

    Only Adam and Eve is out of defect, as the following may lead to the defect of human gene pools.

    1) Inter marriage between close relatives but without God's blessing.
    This is not uncommon among the Jews in ancient times, but the Jews are the blessed. That's why out of 600 more Nobel prize winners 200 more are from the Jews blood line.

    2) Possible inter breeding between humans and other homo erectus.

    So today's human gene pools are not without defects. These defects are not a creation of God.

    Gay is considered sinful for a reason. God's Law is basically designed in accordance to what would happen in the future eternity called heaven. He's the only one knows how to rule an eternity. So if it is said in His Law that gay is a sin, then it could mean that they are not suitable for living in this designed eternity called heaven. That's the possibility. And if this is the case, you can't question Him because you know nothing about how such an eternity should be built and run.
     
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    What's a "future eternity"?? :psychoitc:
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    God as all knowing, all encompassing, all aware.

    God knows Y will occur before it actually occurs, God knows that starting the world with X conditions will result in Y. God is responsible for homosexuality.
    God knows that starting the world with two people (and expecting sons to have sex with their own mother, oops!), that a small gene pool will result in homosexuality. God is responsible for homosexuality.

    Unless of course, you suggest that God is not all knowing, not all encompassing, and unaware, and not God like?
     
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    Yep and God chose to allow free agency. Go figure. People can choose whatever they want including raping children and sleeping with another man. Neither has any evidence that it is based in genetics.

    But heh, why use science when simple propoganda will do?
     
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    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    Does it ever get old spreading the same falsehoods and having them curb stomped again and again and again?

    I am curious.
     
  11. AKR

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    If being gay is genetic, then how can people be blamed for a genetic orientation? And are you saying god is a moron who had no idea that homosexuality would occur based on this design of genes and how they can mutate? How does one write the rules that define how genes will interact and develop, knowing exactly how things will evolve (btw, you're admitting evolution is real, just so you know), but not have responsibility for that system?




    We can question whatever we want. Your idea of god is just made up until you prove otherwise, which gives us even more justification in questioning it. I could just make up my own religion and tell you not to question it because my made up god created superfun happy time heaven, so who are you to question the stupidity of my made up religion?


    Actions are different than attraction. Attraction defines sexual orientation. This is a basic fact you should be familiar with if you're going to argue about this topic. Are you saying you decide your own attraction? Tell me, how does it feel to think that you can choose to enjoy sex with another man? Pretty gay? Because it is.



    All of this is getting off the point though, which is that god designed animals, intending for them to have gay sex.
     

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