Why The Polls Understate Romney Vote

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  1. Cloak

    Cloak New Member

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    Really?

    Morris: "The historical record is 74 seats, set in 1922. I'm confident we're past that."

    Morris: "I believe when independent voters hear the message we are going to send them, we are going to win new 100 Republican seats."

    Morris: Republicans will "definitely win nine seats in the Senate."

    Morris predicted Angle would win NV Senate race.

    and on and on, that's just from 2010, he also said McCain would beat Obama handily. He's just a partisan cheerleader, but hey, whatever helps you sleep at night.
     
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    I think this is just whistling past the grave yard. I will vote against Obama which means I'll vote for Romney. But I'm not excited with his chances. Frankly, I'm still waiting for him to begin his campaign. I'm at a loss to understand what he is doing. He seems to have no passion nor clearly rooted values. I know what Obama's passions are in that he is a committed Marxist redistributionist. I detest that.

    This was an election any Republican with the "Fire in the Belly" should have had a cakewalk into the WH.

    Looking beyond the election is when the rubber will meet the road. Then the tough decisions are going to have to be made or we will be looking at national bankruptcy. And once interest rates begin to rise, as they must, the interest on our national debt will consume most of the federal revenues. The simple reality is that the United States is bankrupt. Look to post WWI Germany for a glimpse into our future. It's not a pretty picture.
     
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    Link to proof of this supposed Ryan insider trading.

    Yes, that's realspeak for **** with your bullsh!t.
     
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    Stalin once said “it is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.”

    I believe many on the hard left - the driving force of the Dem party at the moment - hold nearly the exact same ideology as did Stalin. I believe that the media sympathizers on the far left believe the same, and offer cover.

    My deepest worry is that this is a conscious effort to skew perceptions of the voters in the US to grant cover to cheating. I don't know how the cheating could take place, but this is my worry.
     
  5. Dan40

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    There were libs that said that about Scott's chances to take Kennedy's seat. About the 2010 mid terms. About The walker recall. About the San Jose, San Diego union benefits. All were "walkovers" for the left, that inexplicably went right in the leftist crapper.

    Analysis of recent polls by such as NBC, CBS, CNN, ABC etc.

    Found that when they had b.o. up 4 points, they polled 4 to 5% more Democrats.

    Up by 3, 3% more Democrats polled.

    etc.etc.

    The lamestream liberal media is completely in the b.o. bag and it shows in all that they do and say. Look at the terrorists attacks on our embassies all around the world.
    Why is it happening? Ask any WH official and you got a different answer. Even from the same WH official a day later. Does the lamestream media RIGHTFULLY say the WH doesn't know what to do or what to say? No they toe the WH line no matter how often it changes or how completely stupid it is.

    obama's stupid ass foreign policy naivete is coming back to haunt him. He knew NOTHING about foreign relations and he obviously IGNORED the State Dept from the beginning. Both his economic and foreign policies would have to be greatly improved to be called sophomoric. He's an arrogant amateur baby lost in the woods.
     
  6. BTeamBomber

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    Individual polls, yes, they are crap. What is accurate is a long term aggregate of polls, which is why the GOP needs to be scared right now. My guess in watching polling the last 6 months or so, is that probably 60-70% of all polls collectively have slanted Obama's way. That's not luck, it's a legitimate pattern of the collective feelings of the populace. And that doesn't change even if tomorrow a poll came out with Romney up 25%. Polling works when you DON'T look at the day to day, but rather the overall direction of polls over the long term. To that end, Obama has been and will continue to lead by a healthy margin going forward, unless there is a consistently long term period (at least 2-3 weeks leading to the end) where Romney gets leads (plural) in numerous polls (not just right leaning ones). Things can absolutely change, but it's due to events, not polling. Polls tell us the responses to the candidates words and actions, not the feeling going forward about how people will vote. In general, Romney has nowhere near the favorability of Obama, and historically that hurts because it plays to the all important issue of turnout. If less people think Romney can win or even think he's a good enough alternative to BO, then they will stay home. Conversely, if Obama has enough fuel in the tank to inspire anything close to the turnout he got 4 years ago, there are simply not enough GOP votes out there for them to win. That's simple math.

    For those people that say turnout in a recall election or mid-term election skewed against polling trends, realize that presidential election year polling is much more accurate (not perfect, but close to in the aggregate) because turn out is ALWAYS higher and passions are ALWAYS more inspired in a presidential election. That has always held true, despite what you think about 2010. 2010 was about turnout, plain and simple.
     
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    This ain't the midterm, Skippy, where you can pick off some low hanging fruit. You're in the big leagues now.
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    Bush ran against Gore. Romney is running against Obie. Big difference. People like Obie.
     
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    Romney is ahead, he is way ahead in Ohio and PA. The businesses that Obama has destroyed like Coal and steel in PA will not be supporting him. The election is over.
     
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    Shallow thinking people that aren't smart enough to know when they are being lied to, do like obie. Intelligent people, know better.
     
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    Dick Morris is usually wrong.

    That said, Nate Silver didn't set the world on fire in predicting 2010 and I'd say his work drives the Intrade price on Obama, currently 72.

    But really, y'all don't need an Intrade position on Romney. We've already bet the entire future of the country.
     
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    Lol. Who do you use unskewedpolls.com? Your predictions are a sad joke. Give it up.
     
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    It is indeed. Good call, Mr. Rove.
     
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    Facts... lol.

    Always be wary of right-wingers' "facts".
     
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    Lol.......
     
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    That Romney landslide should be kicking in any minute now...
     
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    The vote count is skewed. He actually won. Just wait. They were counting more democratic votes.
     
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    Well, SOMEONE was in for a "shock"! :lol:

    Here are the Republicans relaxed and sunning themselves with eyes closed on Election Day morning, ready to bask in their new days of Golden Glory, as the opinions of the voters for their fiscal programs prepare to pour forth .

    [​IMG]
     
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    What did you hope to gain by this petulant revival of another poster's prediction?

    BTW: did you find it suspicious that Cuyahoga County reported 100% voter turnout?

    100%??!?
     
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    Shut up you (*)(*)(*)(*)ing leftist liberal beta-male.
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was rigged I tell ya!!! LOL
     
  22. Glock

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    u sound mad.
     
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    I'm not sure - but 100%? Really?
     
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    Lol, great prediction. Republican's are banned from making predictions for at least a year and will receive at least a month of ridicule for how embarrassing they are.
     
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    What happened to all that confidence and bluster?
     

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