Should Islam Be Banned in America and All Mosques Shut Down?

Protectionist,
What about those who are in your Armed Services? Should they be lauded as heroes or the murderous thugs that they are? What about you wicked and corrupt politicians, religious leaders, government agents, etc? Should they also be promoted as heroes or the evil criminal bastards that they really are? What about the majority of people within the United States? Should they be classified as good people or the gullible, corruptible, venal, servile, amoral, greedy, uncouthed, degenerates they are? I could go on forever but I will not being that I would be no better than you and your ilk. There are plenty of criticisms that can be bandied but that is beneath me and my civility. Even the points that I have listed, though valid have no place in civil discussion. See, I am different than you and most others at this site, I come from a position of spreading civility as well as spreading what little truth I have. I am not of the mentality of using sacred scriptures as fighting tools when there actually is no fight at all. Not with me anyway, even though there are spaces that are wide in this fight, I will not take advantage of them. As I have stated time and again, I am about correcting error as well as promoting reconciliation and until this is the theme of your posting, reply not to anything I post because it will be a waste of your time. Learn civility.

 

This is very telling..........I mean here we are a decade and more after the most devastating attack on America in our entire history and we are still confused/debating the nature of our enemy...in fact george bush so confused people that many do not even know who the enemy is.

Contrast this scenario in America now with how America responded to Pearl Harbor....I doubt if many of these bimboes posting on here(the kind jay leno interviews)ever even heard of Pearl Harbor....you thinik I jest? Not at all...that just demonstrates how America has been dumbed down...the public schools instead of teaching has become obsessed with indoctrinating students into political correctness....that comes first...teaching reading,writing,ritmetic and history comes in last.

Alas I digress..........back to the point....the best solution to deal with the domestic muslim threat is to do to them like we did to the Japanese....very similar problem...but actually the muslims are more of a threat than the Japanese were....but we took the Japanese problem more seriously and thus we were able to win that war.....irregardless of what the pc revisionists think about Roosevelts decision....it was legal and it was right......you cannot argue with success...but Roosevelt was very different than the current crop of wussified democrats....he loved America and was not afraid to do what was needed.

 

Ridiculous....you could apply the same fallacious logic to Pearl Harbor..........meaning..........when someone declares war on you...do you just think they will make one attack and go home? You demonstrate a complete lack of ability to understand the scenario of war.

The attack on the WTC was like the attack on Pearl Harbor...the opening salvo by a enemy who intends to destroy us....we could have just sat on our hands like you want and issued insane statements like...dont worry people you are more likely to get killed in a car wreck....then how do we resond when they hit us again.......nevermind people...dont worry people...they didnt kill all that many of us....and so on and so forth.........eventually they will get around to you....which would be a good thing.

 

oh I'm not excluding white ones, Bush, Cheney Putin, Queen Elizabeth. Criminals too.

but you strike me as the Ann Frank type. no?

 

People forget we banned communism during the cold war.

 

What I really wonder is how indicative posts like the one above are of the general population.......how many Americans are so confused like this......I fear way toooooooooo many...thus the position we now find ourselves in.

No nation deserves to survive that has a population like this....thus in a way I think Islam will do the world a favor. At least the muslims know what they want and how to get it....natures way I suppose...survival of the fittest....I will enjoy the spectacle.

 

Communism was a credible threat - the Soviet Union was larger, and nuclear armed, and had a powerful enough military to utterly defeat the US during a war. Random Islamic terrorists don't come anywhere near close to the threat that the Soviet Union was. No actual Islamic nation has declared war on us either.

Plus you claimed that monitoring Mosques individually would require too much investment law enforcement - but if you banned Mosques and Islam, the only way to enforce it would be to greatly increase law enforcement - monitoring emails, random search warrants, etc - banning Mosques and Islam would just drive Muslim extremists underground and be impossible to enforce - at least with Mosques, we know who and where they are - if you ban Mosques, they'll operate in total secrecy.

 

Well...excuse me....now I am convinced Islam is a religion of peace................bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

dont fret though.....the moonbats on here will eat up your drivel.

 

but its okay for them to hate us....but we should not stoop to their level....when they attack us...we should just hunker down ...turn the other cheek and hope its the guy down the street that gets hit...maybe it will take them a long time to get around to me...maybe they will forget about me....when they come for me I will convert to islam....that should make me safe. anyhow.....what i really worry about is getting killed in a car wreck...now that is a real danger etc.etc. see how easy it is to think like a moonbat ..........heh heh

 

I say we Gan ALL the Foreignors that move to this country broke as hell and get loan after loan and default on them, then moving outta the country and going back home. and the banks pass on the debt to americans and don't track them down. and don't do anything.

the LameStreamMedia is not addressing this serious issue, trying to be Politically Correct.

 

What about these guys? They hate you just as much and want to subvert you to their will - why are you going to be terrified that they'll take over the country and force you to submit to them?



Muslims in the US are only about 1% of the population, and there is no Islamic country anywhere in the world that comes close to having the military power to even last 10 seconds against the US in a war. So it doesn't matter how much Muslims "hate you", because they have absolutely no power here - sure Muslims have killed innocent people in the US - so have drug dealers - you have no more reason to be scared of being killed by a Muslim, than to be scared of being killed in a drive-by shooting. Your views are all emotion, no logic or common sense behind them.

 

This is Islam.


bow or die.

 

You are not thinking straight......we are already wasting billions of dollars monitoring muslims........yet we let them come and go like they are not a problem....we are not using common sense.

But all this confusion is understandable.......I mean how can one blame the people when they had a leader (g.bush)trotting around the globe declaring Islam a peaceful religion.........can anyone say 'wishful thinking'.

Bottom line...our political leadership has failed us and a weak and gullible public will not hold them to account.

Things are heating up....time is drawing short....our options are becoming fewer and fewer...when the rubber hits the pavement we will finally be forced to see the truth.....but will it be too late? We almost lost WW2 by procrastinating and engaging in isolationsim. Now here we are doing essentially the same thing...trying to convince ouselves that Islam is really not a threat.

 

You need help.

 

And they deserve the same push back as the Muslims. what's your point? no argument from me here..

These ^ are what I like to call Soft-Shoe Muslims. they are soft because they will not speak up against the "House of War", the actual military wing of Islam. they preach from the "HOuse of Peace", which also an actual section of Islam. they believe this too. this is why they are jaded to any challenge. they are committed to not paying to attention to the bloodshed while the House of War does their business. they go hand in hand but the Soft-shoe Muslims are the PC face that is splashed on TV.

 

It all comes under 'National Security'....you and the other wussies may not like what FDR did but it was legal and it was the right thing to do....latter day apologists are just playing up to the pc crowd.

But to bring you all up to speed and talk about the here and now........do you undersand what Martial Law is? Do you understand that under Martial Law...you will have no civil rights? Furthermore..........do you understand Obama can and very likely will be forced to declare martial law in his second term?

Thus there is no argument..........National Security trumps the constitution as well as it should. The primary job of a President is to protect the nation....and he has the power to do anything...absolutely anything that he thinks needs to be done to protect the Nation....nuff said. No need to reply.

 

Your idea won't protect the nation, so it's a moot point. It will do more harm than good, in addition to violating the Constitution.

 

Where you miss the boat is your ignorance of 'assymetrical warfare'...I don't have the time to tutor you on that...but look it up and you will see how you underestimate the islamic threat.

Regarding the monitoring....we are doing all that already...I will lay out a simple common sense plan on what we should be doing.

First stop all this coming and going from the middle east...shut it down...do not allow any more of them to come in and do not allow the ones here to travel back and forth from here to there.

Next our borders need to be sealed. Even third world nations do this...yet with all our resources we fail to do such a simple thing...it is not that we do not have the ability...we simply do not have the will.

The next step would be to begin to deport the suspicious muslims...the FBI knows who they are...they listen to them, they watch them, and they follow them around...much easier just to send them back...make them pay for their own fare also...give them a choice either be interned like the japanese were or go home. This would have a huge benefit...the muslims being tempted to join the jihad would immediately begin to worry about being deported and thus their motivation to refrain from fanaticism would be greatly enhanced...if we just sent back a couple hundred...the message would be heard loud and clear

 

yep...you got it

 

Too much "national security" is what put this guy in power:

 

So we are just supposed to forget about the WTC and all the other attacks and attempted attacks and just sit back and relax.....what are you smoking?

 

Well...of course the moonbats will reply better to bow than to die.

 

Sinister dictator, but was standing in a bad ass benz...lol

 

A brief FYI to all interested parties.

P.S. Corporations are called persons and people are called corporations ...after they submit.

Have you submitted yet: You have if your name appears written in all capital letters.

There are two of you now...your flesh and blood iteration and your corporate straw man.

 

Well....we could debate whether it will harm the nation to protect it(I suppose that is debateable right bwaaaaaaaaaaaaa)but you still are in error.....FDR did not violate the constitution, Lincoln did not violate the constitution.......they simply have the power to overide it....that is what you fail to understand....it is not a question of constitutionality.....you seem to think the constitution was engraved in stone ....far from it....the constitution is a living document(look up what that means) it can be changed and it has been and it will be again...beyond that...no matter what is in the constitution......in emergencies and matters of national security the commander in chief has the power to do what needs to be done...no matter what the constitution says...you fail to understand that.

In a nutshell....there must be priorities....the first priority of any President is to protect the nation. You let your idealism confuse you......the real world is far different than your ideal....much more complicated....that is why idealists have such a difficult time correctly interpeting threats and how to deal with them....do you think that FDR and Lincoln were the only Presidents who have done things that idealists would say are un-constitutional?

In a earlier post you said you would put protecting the civil rights of a scum bag terrorit above saving a major American City....see how irrational you are...you have let your idealism overcome any sense of what is right or wrong.