Libertarians and Republicans Need To Separate...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by woodystylez, Sep 30, 2012.

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Should Libertarians and Republicans Separate

Poll closed Dec 29, 2012.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. woodystylez

    woodystylez Banned

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    Fox News has lots of voters confused. Because some of their broadcasts are on Libertarians and some are on Republicans.

    Libertarians and Republicans do not share the same policies. Libertarians are only endorcing Republicans because the represent less government because they don't account for war. The result has been lots of Republicans demanding what the Libertarians talk show hosts demand. But when the Republican President doesn't meet those standards he loses the confidence of his/her currently confused party.

    Today fewer Democrats disrespect the Libertarians than Republicans. Look at Gary Johnsons polls in his Democratic state..

    I recently debated on Fox News and I found that I could not win the debate because the host jumped from Republican to Libertarian. When I could have won that debate against a Republican, the topic was Republican based. I won the debate in the end because the host used a lie, which I proved later but what was on the air is what they heard.

    Republicans have the best base but they have turned into the worst party. They don't even have sight of what they were founded on.

    Libertarians think they have it all figured out. They can only have these thoughts because it hasn't been currently tested in our system and how can you prove it wrong if it hasn't been proven wrong. Yet most people basically know if we had a 100% Libertarian government, we would be a 3rd world country.

    In the end, I have more respect for Libertarians than the new Republicans. The new Republicans are pissing in their own faces and getting mad at Democrats for it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZGNe7SSO8E
     
  2. My Fing ID

    My Fing ID Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree, the Republicans have no platform; they just do whatever they're going to do and the fans cheer as they do it. There are no morals or principles, it's all about the team winning for these guys.
     
  3. marbro

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    The Republican platform is ABO. A failed platform. Yes libertarians should be voting gary johnson since republicans have rejected our support and ideals.
     
  4. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    unfortunataly for you americans your political system only makes it worse if you draw you support away from the republicans, because then the democrats will get stronger and you'd still won't get any libertarian power. The best you can do is try to change the republicans into a more libertarian party again, the social conservativies was democrats to begin weren't they? drive them back whence they came.
     
  5. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    You saw how the Tea Party changed it, yes? Those guys got co-opted and still refuse to admit it.

    The Internet makes it easier to have a social revolution without them.
     
  6. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    Well, what's the alternative? just splitting the rightwing vote between the libertarian party and republicans? that's guarantee the democrats victory.
     
  7. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    If you had a child that had great potential but was hanging out with the wrong kids and getting into trouble, would you give them the car keys or ground them? Sometimes, a group has to be punished to see themselves to the right path.

    Without punishment most groups and people do not acknowledge their wrong--there is no need to. The Republicans have learned that they do not have to cater to libertarian values anymore to get the vote. That is why they were able to get away with delegate stripping, rule changes, etc. They believed sincerely that no Republican would vote for a Democrat--even libertarians ones.

    They need to lose this time and then this will prompt introspection that could lead to a true libertarian revolution in the party as it sends men and women to Congress to stave off the Democratic charge.

    Congress has the real power anyway.
     
  8. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    ya, that might work too. you go guys, bring liberty back.
     
  9. Johnny-C

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    And... if ANY person elected realizes and accepts that they aren't appointed to play some political game... the whole nation would be better off "In The Long Run". :)
     
  10. General Fear

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    So true. I wish that Libertarians quit the Republican Party. Libertarians should conduct a hostile take over of the Democratic party. If not, Libertarians could be a major swing vote with the Democratic Party that can cause a major shift in the party.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Freedom_Caucus#Democratic_Freedom_Caucus
     
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    This is like asking should conservative liberals separate from the democratic party?!
     
  12. Zosiasmom

    Zosiasmom New Member Past Donor

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    Won't happen. Democrats are collectivists at heart.
     
  13. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Yep!!! As one Democrat (speaking just for myself), I see a true Libertarian as a far better choice than a staunch-Right Wing Republican!!
     
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    That does not mean that many of us will not 'compromise', to achieve what we believe is "best" for this nation.
     
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    Yes that's the option. The option is boicott the two parties and weaken them. For the democrats also there are other options, like the Greens, with Jill in head.
     
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    Libertarians and Republicans ARE separate, for the most part. The neocons, who run the party now, are in no way libertarian. They have no problem with the government interfering in peoples' lives, as long as the government stays out of THEIR lives.

    True libertarians are a fringe minority in the both parties really.
     
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    They are growing if you look at the social media groups like Reddit and Facebook. People are sick of the two party stranglehold.
     
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    Just so all you Republicans and Libertarians know.......Woody voted for Obama.......

    United We Stand.....

    The USA
    42% Conservative
    39% Independent
    19% Liberal Nut Job

    ....(D)ivided we Fall.

    Its time for The People to unite and throw out The Kenyan Tyrant and all the other nut jobs....and reclaim our Government.
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  19. Daggdag

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    We need to abolish parties completely and have a system where candidates are forced to run on their own merit.
     
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    You do know that libertarians want to reduce the size of government, not increase it, right?
     
  21. REPUBLICRAT

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    ^^^This!
     
  22. Daggdag

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    Most of those people who call themselves liberatarians now, do not want smaller government. They want small federal government, but have no problem with state governments being oversized.
     
  23. Badmutha

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    Like saying you see Ron Paul (R) as a far better choice than Rand Paul (R)......

    ....but you also saw a Community organizer who never ran so much as a lemonade stand.....as "The Solution"....so its understandable.
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    I'm (*)(*)(*)(*) near minarchist these days. I used to be more solidly libertarian, but as with physics we would need to meet their expansion of government with equal opposite pressure and that is a push towards minarchy.
     
  25. Zosiasmom

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    Or two men who were both gun control freaks for most of their life and avoided the military like herpes being voted in as Commander in Chief?

    Coulda had Ron Paul....

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