Gearing to strike Iran

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  1. jamez

    jamez New Member

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    Gearing to strike Iran or the next middle east war just right behind the door
    i think few months from now or right after the presidential election in the states we are going to see major changes in the war in Syria will lead to strike Iran from Israel and the west include the States and Russia with china will never interfere but they will have second shift in their weapons factories to sell more weapons
    1- the Iranian technology specially the rockets is scaring the west more than Israel
    2- the economical siege around Iran and not to lose the only partner they have (Syria) will force them to enlarge the war in Syria (LEBANON OR TURKEY}
    WHAT EVERY BODY THINK ?
     
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    Iran has discovered an electric monitoring device disguised as rock near the country’s Fordow nuclear energy facility.

    The device was found by the members of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) who were checking on communications terminals at Fordow last month, the daily reported citing western intelligence sources.

    The self-destructing device exploded when the IRGC members tried to move what they thought to be a rock. The device could reportedly intercept data from the Fordow computers, the daily said.


    The chairman of Iran’s Majlis (parliament) National Security and Foreign Policy Committee Alaeddin Boroujerdi also said today that nuclear equipment sold to Iran by the German engineering giant Siemens contained explosives aimed at sabotaging the Iranian nuclear facilities.

    The lawmaker said the explosives had been planted in the devices by Siemens and that the German company “must be accountable for this action.”

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    “Iran is the centre of terrorism, fundamentalism and subversion and is … more dangerous than Nazism, because Hitler did not possess a nuclear bomb …” Bibi speaking on Thursday? Nope. The ex-Prime Minister of Israel, Shimon Peres, in 1996.

    And – I’m indebted here to the indispensable Roger Cohen – Peres himself said in 1992 that Iran would have a nuclear bomb by 1999! That’s 13 years ago.

    And Ehud Barak – now Bibi’s Defence Minister – said in 1996 that Iran would have a nuke by 2004. That’s eight years ago.
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    Ridiculous conspiracy theories about Seimens..

    They were building nuclear facilities for Iran back in the 1970s... under the Atoms for peace program.

    There is NO reason to attack Iran based on speculation and paranoia.. Sanctions are working remarkably well.
     
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    A theory is a hypothesis that has been proven to be true.

    The same company is linked to participating in computer program attacks on both Iranian and Japanese nuclear facilities.

    Reality is far removed from what the general public is told.
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    enuff of talks i want action, hit iran and get it over done with !
     
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    And you alone have inside information.
     
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    Perhaps you can detail what threat Iran is to the US of A and why it's so important to attack?
    You're proposing an illegal attack on a country that is zero threat to the US.
     
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    There is one real issue everyone is forgetting we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq both push overs on the conventional war front and crippling in guerilla warfare. We seem to agree on that I would think if pressed so now look at Iran.

    1. They will have a very capable standing military force that will fight, and this includes partisan units in uniform that under the Geneva Conventions would be considered legitimate military units to. The guerillas we get there will be nationally supported units.

    2. They have many terrorist ties they will use and will exploit the regional hot spots, likely extending this conflict into Iraq and Syria and other nations many who do not like the USA.

    3. China and Russia are not exactly going to denounce this if they defend their nation being attacked first and they hold two permanent security council seats. What if they get the effective government in exile to China and China becomes an arms supplier for the resistance forces we could be facing a vicious fight. And Iran will take the first hit it gives them the high ground with allies.

    4. We must invade Iran with enough force to occupy it this means more troops than we have, we will need POW camps not likely in the region, we will need money to maintain this and sad to say likely will have to Draft soldiers to meet the need if this gets out of hand to more than Iran. A relative in the service a career nco said they would need with support units likely 500,000 troops to occupy Iran long term to hold all the cities, towns, oil fields, major assets, prevent in arms shipments enough to matter and counter the insurgents who again would be under the GC's soldiers and therefore have rights to good treatment. More if we need to drop boots hard into other nations at the time.
     
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    There is one real issue everyone is forgetting we invaded Afghanistan and Iraq both push overs on the conventional war front and crippling in guerilla warfare. We seem to agree on that I would think if pressed so now look at Iran.

    1. They will have a very capable standing military force that will fight, and this includes partisan units in uniform that under the Geneva Conventions would be considered legitimate military units to. The guerillas we get there will be nationally supported units.

    2. They have many terrorist ties they will use and will exploit the regional hot spots, likely extending this conflict into Iraq and Syria and other nations many who do not like the USA.

    3. China and Russia are not exactly going to denounce this if they defend their nation being attacked first and they hold two permanent security council seats. What if they get the effective government in exile to China and China becomes an arms supplier for the resistance forces we could be facing a vicious fight. And Iran will take the first hit it gives them the high ground with allies.

    4. We must invade Iran with enough force to occupy it this means more troops than we have, we will need POW camps not likely in the region, we will need money to maintain this and sad to say likely will have to Draft soldiers to meet the need if this gets out of hand to more than Iran. A relative in the service a career nco said they would need with support units likely 500,000 troops to occupy Iran long term to hold all the cities, towns, oil fields, major assets, prevent in arms shipments enough to matter and counter the insurgents who again would be under the GC's soldiers and therefore have rights to good treatment. More if we need to drop boots hard into other nations at the time.
     
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    Not well enough apparently.
    Iran either lets the UN inspectors in, or it gets blown up.

    "And we lit up your world like the 4th July"
     
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    Its huge mistake to invade Iran and i do not think any western leader thinking that neither our government
    all we need is destroying its military and allowing the opposition to rule
     
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    Would China just stand by while an invading force took over its oil fields? They may be in Iran but China owns them and is desperate for the oil.
    That course could get get very messy if anyone was stupid enough to go for it.
     
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    China is buying much less oil from Iran, has cancelled the South Pars Project and brought 20% of their workers home.

    Somebody needs to remind Kolter how many troops it took to occupy Berlin at the end of WW2... when Berlin was a city of about 5 million.

    Why are so many people talking out of their hats?
     
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    Tehran - (UPI): The commander of air defense Iranian Brigadier Farzad Ismaili Sunday that Iran made ​​drone of the type (Hazem) have the ability to carry out the bombing and fly long distances.
    announced Brigadier Ismaili told Fars production 3 types of the latest drone aircraft (Hazem) for ranges short, medium and long. explained that this plane seek out targets and identify them and when needed can be used to load the explosives which means that the plane (Hazem) can be used Kmadfieh and missiles as well as sent on missions exploratory . explained Ismaili that "usually we do not erect missiles on a plane (Hazem) but if the need arises can be equipped with explosives." said the commander of air defense Iranian that "Iranian aircraft drone has the ability to monitor different areas, including the Gulf and follow all movements enemies ". was assistant secretary of defense and the armed forces of Iran, Mohammad Muslim, announced last month that his country was preparing drones homemade model "Karrar" missile systems.

     
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    Since this chart in 2010.. Iran is selling LESS oil to China.


    But barrels counted upon arrival in Iran's top four customers - China, India, Japan and South Korea - show a 20 percent decrease, or 357,000 bpd, so far this year, according to government data and industry sources.

    That translates into a loss in revenue of roughly $35.7 million a day, or $4.3 billion in the first four months of this year, based on current Brent crude prices.

    Iranian crude is sold at a discount of several dollars per barrel to benchmark dated Brent, so the actual losses are likely to be even higher.


    In a nutshell.. Sanctions are working.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/2012/06/10/iran-oil-revenues-idINL5E8H78K120120610
     
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    Criticized Iran sanctions approved by the European Union against today because of its nuclear program , while welcomed by the United States.

    He said the Supreme Leader of the Islamic Republic Ali Khamenei today that Westerners seeking to "disturb the quiet" in Iran to apply economic pressure on it.

    In a televised speech delivered directly in front of thousands of people, Khamenei said that "the government officials, parliament and the judiciary to be vigilant so that the enemy can not (Westerners) from disturbing the tranquility in country Bmabaderhm".

    He added that "enemies will fail in their confrontation against the Iranian nation economic, also failed in other areas."

    U.S. welcome
    in return the United States said Monday that she welcomed the new economic sanctions imposed by the European Union to put pressure on Iran to halt any nuclear weapons production.

    Said White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters traveling with President Barack Obama "rally the world to isolate Iran and increase pressure on the leadership to stop the pursuit of a nuclear weapon first priority for the president."


    The new sanctions are considered one of the most campaigns against Iran by Europe so far (French)
    The new sanctions
    referred to as the new European sanctions decided by the day EU foreign ministers meeting in Luxembourg, one of the most campaigns against Iran by Europe so far.

    These sanctions include a ban on financial transactions with some exceptions for those transactions related to humanitarian assistance and purchases of food and medicine.

    In a change of existing European policy, will require a ban that European traders submit an application to their governments in order to obtain a license before they can finance any transactions of goods allowed.

    And also will be banned on EU countries to export metals and graphite important in the steel industry to Iran, The Union also banned import natural gas from Iran.

    The Union also aims Iranian shipping industry in an attempt to limit Tehran's ability to sell its oil outside Europe and the United States to get the money and hard currency.

    The new sanctions would prevent European companies from exporting shipbuilding technology to Tehran or providing oil storage capabilities or services raise the Iranian flag on the carriers or recorded.
     

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