Best strategy for midterms, to prove Obama wrong?

What is the best strategy to defeat Obama and get control of Congress.

 

For GOPers to stop acting like sore losers would be a good start. Start moving towards the middle.

 

Two of a hundred possible responses. Great poll. How about "Put country above party and expect pres. to do likewise. Together work for the good of the country.?"

 

That is the way it should work, and any professor could quote George Washington on the dangers of party faction.

I left off the "work for the good of the country" option specifically because we have a machine that failed to work for four years and really beyond. Working together for the good of the country got us the very regulations signed into law by Clinton that is somewhat blamed for the financial crisis, but Obama's side only sees Phil Gramm and our side only sees the Waters, Meeks, and Frank videos (of which only Meeks manned up about it). The reality is of the last four years two of those four Obama could get what he wanted, but he seems to have gotten zero blame from his side; I can only go by the liberal media on this one. So I strongly suspect that what compromise comes out will not work as needed for the circumstances.

Since we are so diametrically opposed and since we have no power to override him, and if our base understands the game plan, and any listener of Neal Boortz from way back knows how funny it was when he let the other side talk, therefore, strategically an option appears to be that to prove Obama's side wrong, concede defeat at the first sign of not enough compromise to work and give him all of what he wants, let him talk. It is certainly the hardest option, but if scared say, "scared."

The Bush Tax cuts maybe worked, but nowhere near enough for the spending levels, and philosophically agreeing to them in a recession is agreeing that trickle down works.

The Clinton taxes simply were not in response to this level of debt, so if that is as far as Republicans and Democrats are willing to go, logic seems to indicate they would result in a very lukewarm pay down. The longer it is dragged out the more likely it is we get the next war with no way to pay for it except do this all over again; and right now the enemy sees the reaffirmed spirit that has triumphed over a decade of war and they are not shaking in their boots. {A faint and turkey call might let York draw a bead.}

The current Republican platform blames Social Security in part for "harming job creation and growth" at the time when the payroll tax was less under the Bush tax cuts, which ironically makes the magical "debt" here worse:

"Three programs—Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security—account for over 40 percent of total spending. While these levels of spending and debt are already harming job creation and growth, projections of future spending growth are nothing short of catastrophic, both economically and socially."

In this situation, if the Ali Abunimah disclaimer was true, "He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power," Obama has nothing to lose. If he compromises and agrees that the problem is the harming of job creation and growth by Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, his Party cannot do anything about it for two years except if impeachment shows up as an option. They like us would be looking to the midterms, but they would be looking at it with blood in their eyes that revenge is a vote best served cold to their Great Leader.

Many times there are two ways to do things. You can do my way with the right tool for the job, or the highway, or stick a flat screwdriver between the bolt and the wrench and pick up a few hitchhikers on your way home. If the same thing is not working, try something new. If Republicans Fight tooth and nail, it could be they are scared his plan could work; so it is not something that should be ignored.

Yes we are really close to the point where one mistake could be fatal, but if we do not have four years to find out we had better do it in two with absolute certainly.

The most important issue is not abortion or Gay marriage, but try telling my side that. The general welfare of the nation is the top thing. So if both sides can work together for the good of the country, and come up with a plan that works, Great; it might help reduce the all or nothing way we have been headed. If compromise fails the question of "which side was wrong" is most likely going to still be unanswered for the unwashed mob, and then we have two more years of trying to get it right? And that might be fatal.

 

Though you and I are on opposite sides, I bet we could find enough areas of partial agreement to move toward some workable programs. And, I wager, a program put together along those lines put forward by strong candidates from either (radical - how about both)sides would get the overwhelming support of a majority of Americans. However sick most are of the other party, they are even more sick of the paralysis that keeps us from doing even essential things like avoiding the fiscal cliff, keeping the infrastructure functional, taking on the potential of cyber terror. Start a thread - choose your topic, but make it an essential area of action. Propose your course of action, and I will react. I won't promise to agree, but I will name my reasons for disagreement and those parts that I can agree with. And so we will work toward a solution.

 

Historically this has been the response when I do that:

http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/us-congress-legislative-branch/9647-red-blue-state-health-care.html

Feel free to comment on it, you would be the first one to do it. Starting a topic on it though would be stupid, as Obamacare is the law of the land so says the speaker who was not swift enough.

Part of the problem is that party animals are not very good at trying the other guy's idea. I don't think math is conservative or liberal, black or white, but in response to math being found racist my Calculus 151 professor did get mad and say before Jack Falls fell, "I do not want my bridges built by someone who cannot do the math." With regard to taxes I have played with ideas of sales and flat rates, and quote Jefferson and Thomas on progressive taxes, can tell you that when Bob Dole ran for president (against Clinton) he paid a higher percentage of his net worth in taxes than the guy running for Governor of Georgia at the time, whose net worth was around that of Romney at $250,000,000. And can tell you that Romney paid less of his net worth in taxes than Obama. So really, I do not think my solutions would give anyone an idea of Republican solutions. As I always scare the Flat Taxers with Guy Milner was paying .75% of his net worth in taxes and a factory worker paying 4.75%, and say, "okay, let's make the taxes fair shall we?"

You see I had a topic called "It's not Camelot stupid," so no kingly "we will work toward a solution" is going to get very far.

 

Just keep on keepin' on. Seemed to work out pretty well a week ago. hehe

 

I would urge the president to act conciliatory but not to move an inch. First off, he won. Secondly, Republican ideas are so horribly outmoded on so many issues there is no room for compromise anymore.

 

Suggestion on Foxy Blond Legs Channel the other day, get candidate that is charismatic, repeat message. hehe

 

He not only is holding all the cards for Clinton taxes, he is holding all the cards for more if the Republicans want anything other than the fiscal cliff they voted for.

 

why is the goal "to prove obama wrong"? why isn't the goal to improve the country, unite the two parties in a common goal, and to further americas future financial security? i understand that liberals and conservatives generally don't agree on anything, but there are ways to compromise. also, if all the republicans running on the ticket for the midterm are scumbags (i'm not saying they are, it's hypothetical) would you still vote for them? if your answer is yes, you will. then you are quite mindless, it seems as if you just follow what your party leaders say, and you don't actually try to take initiative, and support somebody you actually believe will further your political goals.
in example, in this past election there were many states that had third party candidates that i liked better than both the democrats and republican candidates. in my state i voted for them. i liked their goals and wanted to show my support. though i knew they wouldn't win, my vote went on a record showing that i supported their goals. like the 1896 elections, even though william jennings bryan lost, the votes he procured while running helped further his platform despite him not getting into office. it also affected later elections. so, stop thinking of how to make sure the republicans hold the house, and start thinking of how to make sure men and women who have the best morals and are intelligent enough to help this country are the ones in office

 

You miss the fundamental question. The nation is split, half want s to move down the socialist road, the other half wants to go in the opposite direction. We are at a fork in the road, you go down one or the other but you cant split the difference.

The libs believe their policies of wealth redistribution, tax the rich, social justice, socialized medecine, etc will improve the country. They view the govt as the representative of the people and the failures of the past are due to a weak govt, so the solution is a bigger and stronger govt.

Conservatives believe their policies of smaller govt and increased personal freedom will improve the country. Conservatives believe that people make the the best decisions for themselves, and by improving the situation of each individual you improve the country.

There are more differences between the libs and conservatives, but the point is that we have reached the point were compromise is too painful. To each side, the choice is all or nothing not out of greed but out of survival.

 

Step one is to actually be fiscal conservatives. You can't cut revenue, increase spending, blame the other guy for not fixing the problem you caused fast enough, and then offer that the solution is cutting revenue and increasing spending.

That and get some smart, charismatic people to step up and lead the party. The party is really lacking charisma right now.

 

Send the country into another recession. It would (*)(*)(*)(*) up Obama's second term.

 

why is the goal "to prove obama wrong"?

I don't think yer gettin' it. Obama is wrong because he has a black father.

 

A republican candidate with charisma. Now there's a novel concept.

 

Offer free stuff.

 

Do you know what postmodern leftism is? Obama is a postmodern leftist.

 

I think that deteriorating race relations will monkeywrench the left's ability to govern.

 

The goal is to improve the country, and to preserve it. The strategy is to prove Obama wrong on an issue that is not wholly dangerous to our principles. If you believe he is wrong, and if you cannot get your way sometimes the only way to prove something to the hive mind is to let their Great Leader be wrong. If he is right, with regard to his economic schemes, by doing it his way, by uniting for “a common goal, and to further Americas future financial security” we win too and there is no foul. If we fight tooth and nail, we risk preserving the lying evil spirit of revenge.

The goal cannot ever be to improve the country by uniting parties for the kind of leadership the ONE party State wants, our goal had to be to remove him, has to be to find a way to stop him by overriding him, and look to a future without him.

There are some things that are hard to prove without losing all liberty to his nation-building for a “kind” of leadership, arrived at by the “competent citizen” as First Lady Hillary put it to the Democracy conference of dictators in Africa. If we are right on the taxes, we can prove that. I doubt we can get a decent Music video for the limited attention span Democratic hive mind youth, or sing and dance appropriately, that would explain the virtue of sanctuary States and States having and teaching their culture over the ONE homogenized multicultural Nation built on hypocrisy, to explain live and let live on a larger scale, which is threatened in the process of the retarded, ignorant, or evil forced acceptance of all false prophets and their people free from freedom of speech denigrating slaver beliefs..., which can only open the doors to the Trojan Horse.

If we can prove him wrong on something significant, for a majority in the midterms, maybe we can save the nation from the threat of sure destruction.

 

If the guy has both houses and uses the other guy’s taxes that were for irrational exuberance bust, and by extension inadequate to the task, we can blame him.

We just failed to have someone who could articulate and sing and dance, “we can dance, we can dance,” or in other words, walk the walk and talk the talk.

What are deductions for? How did we get them in the first place? Are there some business deductions that are totally job specific? If you wear soft shoes, and I must wear steel toed shoes to have a job…I can imagine that there are much bigger issues at stake. It seems to me look at deductions and maybe raise rates, but do not ever blindly do anything or lock yourself into anything. We should be conservative, not stubborn or stupid.

 

This ^^^^^^^^^^^!

 

Or have a Jive Turkey stack you can pop some off of and transfer to districts in need, for that impossible probability of a 49% everywhere it is needed, just make sure the stack manager does not have the leftovers in the Stack vote, as they will exceed the population of registered voters in the stack.

One of Two Men in Black Postal Inspectors: “How come you only have one black employee?

Rural Postmaster: “We only have 6% black population in this county.”

One of Two Men in Black Postal Inspectors: “We can fix that.”

Oh, I forgot to mention, the black man was over near the wall on the right, and the two black postal inspectors on the left, and the postmaster was standing to the right of me; I was just there to mail something. They fixed it. And years later Newt got a new district.

 

It is the exact opposite; it makes them work harder for total control of a “kind.” And in the cycle of things it is that total control that eventually must fail as people strive for freedom, then the ugly truth comes up, and people will divide up worse than before. Races divided by social and economic justice, which the party of slavery wants, can only lead to worse racism. The Democrats are just using the blacks for their goals.

 

Spoken like a Patriot in their own mind and an enemy of ALL Real Americans.