How Should Republicans Respond?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by Smartmouthwoman, Nov 13, 2012.

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How should Republicans respond?

Poll closed Nov 27, 2012.
  1. Minimize opposition to gay marriage

    14 vote(s)
    63.6%
  2. Minimize opposition to abortion

    14 vote(s)
    63.6%
  3. Agree to a path to citizenship for illegal aliens

    11 vote(s)
    50.0%
  4. Don't alter the stance on any of these issues

    6 vote(s)
    27.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. Smartmouthwoman

    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    How should Republicans respond to 4 more years of Obama? Following defeat in the presidential election and in the Senate, Republicans are rethinking how strongly they should advocate some long-held positions, and even whether they should abandon certain ideas altogether.

    Here’s your chance to offer your view. You can select more than one of the choices. Let’s hear what you think!
     
  2. Casper

    Casper Banned at Members Request Past Donor

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    The GOP needs to reform itself, that or get used to losing more elections and becoming a minor player in American politics.
     
  3. Mr_Truth

    Mr_Truth Well-Known Member

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    I voted Don't alter ... so that the Republicans can lose again. Hopefully, we will have this ticket in the next election:



    PALIN-BACHMANN IN 2016!
     
  4. Libhater

    Libhater Well-Known Member

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    The ticket for 2016 that will not only win over the popular and electoral vote to Conservatism, but will ensure America of having a sane and fiscally responsible government for the following 8 years would be that of Marco Rubio/Rand Paul.
     
  5. richface

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    They should stop whining that's a way to start.
    Stop blaming and finger pointing and accept their ideas are no longer wining over Americans.
    Currently they blame Obama, he cheated one republican said, he rigged the election, he fought dirty, some even blame him for sandy omg

    Republicans need to look in the Mirror and point back to themselves or they will forever be in opposition.
     
  6. FFbat

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    Rand Paul is still a bit too polarized for a moderate ticket.
     
  7. Libhater

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    Who's talking about a 'moderate' ticket? Look at how all those moderate Republicans lost their bid for senate seats this year. Rand Paul brings in the libertarian side of the ledger, and of course the Conservative Rubio will help nail down the Latino vote. And they're both sound fiscally--which is exactly what America will need once obamacare and all his socialist regulations turn America into another Greece by 2016.
     
  8. Captain America

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    I dunno. He came out for legalization of pot this morning. Or, at least, took a stance to leave it up to the states. That was semi-cool for a ********* don't cha think?
     
  9. Albert Di Salvo

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    America is going to experience tragedies and disasters over the next decade that make this question of political reform of little importance.
     
  10. Junkieturtle

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    If the GOP sheds it's social conservatism/evangelical butt-kissing, there's probably no way they'd lose an election ever again.

    However, that does strip away most of their voters till what you're left with is basically rich people and those who worship them. They would have to couple that with true economically conservative principles. Basically, they would need to embrace the libertarian sect of their party and boot out the neocon/theocon element.
     
  11. FreshAir

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    lol, them two, I sure hope so, that will get the dem vote out for sure


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  12. skeptic-f

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    I find this OP very dislikeable. SMW focuses on certain core Republican positions and effectively suggests that abandonning them would be a disaster for the Republicans (which it might) and her remaining option of doing nothing implies that no part of the Republican message and party platform needs changing. There are definitely things the Republicans could change which would benefit them.

    The key difference in the election was that the Republicans lost considerable numbers of Latino and Asian voters and didn't do as well with the Middle Class as they hoped. Surely the Republicans could modify their message enough to reverse this trend. The path to citizenship for illegal immigrants is a practical inevitability, but unlike the last Amnesty if it was part of a comprehensive package of a real wall, tougher borders and a robust work permit system coupled with a major crackdown on the employers of illegals it wouldn't be a capitulation of Republican principles.
     
  13. mutmekep

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    Lessons modern parties in general have to learn IMO , tweaked to reflect my understanding of GOP reality :
    *Pro-Finance parties are trashed here and there
    *Public mounts anger against income inequality and social injustice
    *People are en masse getting educated in political theory and economics via the net , you can not BS them with empty promises
    *Societies are getting more "pro-choice" , you like weed? smoke it , you want an abortion? have it , this is the direction the world moves and if you go the other way you will end up like the European Bolshevik remains.
    *Employment is the key , working people with acceptable living standards make the middle class , the middle class decides (for now) who wins the elections, if your policies suppress their numbers you should start accepting the fact that fringe ideas will be made into parties that sooner or later will make you obsolete.
    *The purpose of elections is to put the most capable administration in office , this administration has to deal with pressing existing issues, your belief in god and your constant reminding of it makes you look like an idiot , god will not save you from a storm FEMA probably will.
    *The duty of a country is to sustain it's population and secure good standards of living , the duty of a country is not to make profit or open the path for few individuals to profit , centering your campaign on how good businessman you are doesn't mean (*)(*)(*)(*) because a country is not business and millionaires will not get you elected .
    *Bigotry never pays off , targeting specific minorities (or even majorities like in the case of anti-female statements) will not get you elected, go make a party chart and stay loyal to it , people will appreciate it , changing views like a little whore to appease bigger audiences leads nowhere , if you promote family standards you will get voted down by singles and if you don't like people of colour they and many people of non colour will turn against you so pick a site and stick with it.
    *To be against a ruling party is easy but will not gain you more votes , make real propositions and present detailed solutions to existing issues , this at least will make you look like a professional who knows what he wants and how to get it. It is much much better to concur that your predecessor did the best possible but appear confident that you can do a far better job .
    *Be innovative and stop parroting old worn out slogans, people (well, most of them) are enough educated to understand that when you call someone socialist you give him the label that he cares more about the society as a whole while you look like a stock market shark.
    *Stop the catastrophology "collapse" and "the end of the world" and "X country is an enemy" leads nowhere , people will vote you to secure the best deals with foreign countries and in a way that will not get their kids killed , sending the army instead of looking for creative solutions means more trouble down the road.
     
  14. Latherty

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    I really like this question, mainly because it shows flexibility on the Republican side.

    "That's good. You have taken your first step into a larger world"
     
  15. Mr_Truth

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    Rubio? He didn't do a very good job of convincing Florida Latinos of voting for Romney.

    Paul? It appears as if the day of the ********** is over and his views on civil rights are beyond archaic.
     
  16. Mr_Truth

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    ... and insure another victory for America!
     
  17. webrockk

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    Lay down. Give the children their Utopia....

    Let them pull more money out of the private sector with tax hikes, and see who they blame for the disasterous effects on the economy, employment and revenue.

    Let them fulfill their environmental agenda, and watch who they blame for prohibitively expensive necessities...heat, fuel, and food.

    Let them continue with their manipulative, outcome based, corporatist policies in regards to "green", student and mortgage lending, and see who they blame for the next bubble/bust.

    Let them ignore the Social Security and Medicare Baby Boomer bomb, and see how they rip off seniors to continue the charade...and who they blame.

    Let them continue borrowing and QEing, and see who they blame for hyper-inflation and trillion dollar debt service.

    Let them continue operating the federal government with no budget, and let them raise debt ceilings forever,
    and see how they explain, and who they blame for "B" credit ratings, and the inability to borrow another dime on "good faith and credit" of the USA.

    Let them have Obamacare, and see who they blame for the skyrocketing deficits, the destruction of jobs in the health insurance industry, lay offs, part time and contract jobs being the "new normal", red tape, doctor shortages, wait times and inferior care.

    Let them coddle, avoid offending and negotiate with expanding radical Islam while slashing our military, alienating Israel and projecting weakness, and see what silly label they apply to the next catastrophic "man caused disaster"
     
  18. Libhater

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    Great post and best one to date on explaining or on giving the scenario of utter doom if liberal policy is to succeed. Now if only the liberals here could be open minded enough and intelligent enough to see the destructive methodology of their socialist policies.
     
  19. Junkieturtle

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    Compromise.

    Pure and simple compromise.

    It's what BOTH parties need to be doing, and NOW. Spending cuts AND increasing tax revenue. That's what needs to happen. This asinine stand-off that's happening is completely destructive and the biggest of the problems we face.
     
  20. Phoebe Bump

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    I think you should stick to your guns. hehe. And God. And gays.
     
  21. Albert Di Salvo

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    Compromise was tried before. Conservatives got rolled. Better that there be no compromise.
     
  22. Junkieturtle

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    No, it's not better. That's what's happening now. If you think the current situation is better than compromise, I really have to question your credibility on this matter.
     
  23. Albert Di Salvo

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    You can question my credibility and I will question your ability to critically analyze facts.
     
  24. Nonconformist

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    I don't really care about the Republican party. Maybe it's time for the two party system to go anyway. The fact that this election was swayed by social issues and people still blaming Bush for the economy shows me the people are too far gone. Everyone is blaming the Republican party but I'm blaming the American people. This election should have been about the economy and only the economy and Obama should not have been given a pass.
     
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    On the national level gay marriage and abortion should not even be talked about. There are pressing issues that are destroying the nation.

    These guys (Every (*)(*)(*)(*) one of them (R) and (D) ) need to drop the stupid get a vote BS and work on fixing the economy.
     

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