Americans 4 to 1 support Israeli's attack on Gaza Strip

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  1. Zxereus

    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    POLL: U.S. Support For Israeli Action




    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1112/84036.html?hp=r3
     
  2. GeddonM3

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    let it rain!!!!
     
  3. raytri

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    Wait... I thought a majority of Americans were Free Corn Takers who had lost all sense of what America stood for and had pushed the country into a moral, economic and political decline.

    Are these the same Americans who strongly support Israel's right to defend itself?
     
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    I guess I have to ask what is their to support or be opposed too? I am not a fan of violence, and it is yet again sad to see people can't leave violence behind them. Yet this war is not our own.

    My point is its Israel's right to defend itself, and if the Hamas (or whomever) attack they should expect retaliation.

    What I don't like is our involvement at all. This is hatred, and an old religious fight that has gone on in this region of the world for a long time.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

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    Who cares.

    The majority of Amerikans would fail a political literacy test to vote.
     
  6. GeddonM3

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    i very much doubt that liberals, whom you described, are the majority of people that see Israel as having a right to defend themselves. i bet they make up the percentage of the ones who said they dont care or have no right to defend themselves.
     
  7. raytri

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    I'm talking about the American majority of 51% or so that voted Obama back into office. Conservatives have spent the last two weeks or so lamenting the fall of America, and describing all those voters as leeches and sponges.

    So is that argument off the table now? Has that 51% of Obama leeches suddenly morphed into 80% hawkish Israel backers?

    I'm just trying to keep up with the conservative narrative about their fellow Americans. It's either schizoid, ever-changing or total BS; I'm trying to figure out which.
     
  8. The Mello Guy

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    the solution is a palestinian state.....who if they keep up these attacks after that happens will have nobody to blame but themselves for what israel does....

    because they have every right to defend themselves, but palestinians also have good reason to be pissed off
     
  9. BestViewedWithCable

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    Come on, man... Youre smarter than this....

    Iran doesnt give a darn about the Palestinians, Iran runs HAMAS and HAMAS runs GAZA.

    Notice how you dont see any problems with the west bank?

    Its cause the west bank doesnt have a sea port and isnt connected to Egypt.

    Iran cant get any weapons in....
     
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    i very much doubt it. id say all 48% of people who voted against Obama are probably for Israel defending themselves followed by the libertarians and such. then you have the Obama voter who at most makes up about 20% or so that agree with Israel defending themselves. Liberals hate Israel, if they had their way they would cut off all spending we give to Israel and give it to Hamas.

    hell lets do a poll here on these forums asking if you agree or disagree that Israel defending themselves is justified. make the poll open to see who voted for what. i bet conservatives will vote yes 3 to 1 over liberals who vote yes.

    wanna bet???
     
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    Who cares about conflicts between primitive, terrorist states? Not our concern.
     
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    A majority of Americans believe Israel’s military attack on the Gaza Strip is justified, according to a poll released Monday.

    So why did so many people vote for BH Obama who is a muslim terrorist sympathizer??
     
  13. GeddonM3

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    now this is something i agree with. the world needs to stay out of their business and if they choose to go at each others throat then let them. eventually they are gonna get real dirty so we might as well just let them go at it and get it over with. no outside help, they go head to head with what they got and end it. and once its over the winner makes the terms.

    game/set/match .
     
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    what makes you think Obama supporters are the majority of the voters who said yes??? did it say somewhere in the article that mostly obama voters supported this, or is this just another weak attempt to try and take credit for something you really didnt do???
     
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    who the hell said anything about IRan? how does that change my point?
     
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    Your math doesn't get you to 80% of the population.

    If you claim that all 48% who voted against Obama support Israel (a statistically unlikelihood, but let's not quibble), that leaves another 32% of the population necessary to reach 80%.

    That means that roughly 60% of Obama supporters would have to support Israel's incursion into Gaza.

    This is what I mean by the conservative narrative being schizoid: all the things that conservatives want to believe about their fellow Americans can't all be true simultaneously.
     
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    Obama says "kick their arse, Sea Bass!!"

    [video=youtube;nSipYY933eU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSipYY933eU[/video]
     
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    The government in GAZA takes its orders from IRAN
     
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    so only half of the liberals who voted for Obama support israel defending themselves, i could agree with that. but im still guaranteeing the great majority who agree with Israel defending themselves are not Obama voters by far. liberals sympathise more with the palestinians than they do with Israel by far.

    but i like how liberals work just the same, they see a poll they cant contend with and they wanna pretend they are the reason for its huge overall turnout. wanna make a bet on the majority who doesnt agree Isreal defending itself is justified??? ill put my money on muslims and liberals to be the main factor in that 20%.
     
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    which is another reason for one palestinian state
     
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    Santa Claus has spoken. Progressives, go wait by the mailbox for the next check.
     
  22. raytri

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    All I'm saying is you can't get to 80% without a strong majority of liberals. And the 60% is a floor; you only get there if you assume 100% support from everyone who cast a vote for Romney. That's a stretch, but I'm feeling generous.

    I'm one of those Obama voters who is not an at-all-costs Israel supporter (I can see the indefensible things Israel has done, like expanding settlements). I think in general the Palestinians have gotten the short end of the stick from everyone in the region. However, I also see the indefensible things Hamas has done. And regardless, no country should be expected to tolerate rockets being launched into it.

    Just recognize that when you're celebrating this 80% support, you're including a strong majority of Obama voters.
     
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    All I'm saying is you can't get to 80% without a strong majority of liberals. And the 60% is a floor; you only get there if you assume 100% support from everyone who cast a vote for Romney. That's a stretch, but I'm feeling generous.

    I'm one of those Obama voters who is not an at-all-costs Israel supporter (I can see the indefensible things Israel has done, like expanding settlements). I think in general the Palestinians have gotten the short end of the stick from everyone in the region. However, I also see the indefensible things Hamas has done. And regardless, no country should be expected to tolerate rockets being launched into it.

    Just recognize that when you're celebrating this 80% support, you're including a strong majority of Obama voters.
     
  24. GeddonM3

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    fair enough fair enough, well then ill just look at this as a reason to celebrate. in this case this is probably the closest the left and right have come to agreeing whole heartedly on anything in the last 6 years or so, probably longer.

    im not saying Israel is no angels either, i know they do some sketchy ass (*)(*)(*)(*), but atleast we agree nobody should have to bend over with their ass cheaks spread and take it in the ass like a bunch of punks.

    personally i say the US and the rest of the world need to back the hell up and let Israel and Hamas go at it and be done with it. its gonna happen anyways and nothing is ever gonna keep it from happening. let them war it out and be done with it all.
     
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    What exactly is the Iron Dome doing right now. Israel is shooting down 90% of the rockets, where is the need for a ground invasion?
     

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