Liberals, do you love Hitler if he wasn't an anti-semite?

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  1. FixingLosers

    FixingLosers New Member

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    Simple question. I hope you libs can give a simple 'yes' or 'no'. After all, he implemented a lot of Keynesian(some of his advisers are actual, personal students of J.M.Keynes) policies (just like Obama)and some of them actually worked (unlike Obama, none of Obama's tricks worked)

    So no wiggle room here. I think you guys are gonna love him, after all, he is all for 'equality' (which to you libs is equivalent of egalitarianism), he loves regulation & nationalization, and he loves government-run media (just like NPR)... he shares too much feat. with liberals nowadays.

    And remember Stagnant? He was banned, but he never shy away from revealing his admiration for hitler's economic success, that is, the welfare of the people did get improved, manufacture did enjoyed some boom time... that is, until he can't balance his budget no more and had to slaughter the top 1% (who happens to be majorly Jews) and invade Poland.

    And I hope you guys understand that by siding with Hitler economically do not automatically makes you look bad, just dangerous, but definitely not remotely as dangerous as Obama, who is clueless and have actual governmental power.
     
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    Questerr Banned

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    I'm a Liberal who opposes big government, so no, I don't like Hitler.

    This entire thread is bull(*)(*)(*)(*). It's like saying "Hitler was a social conservative, so if he wasn't an anti-semite, would right-wingers like him?"
     
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    Daybreaker Well-Known Member

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    Okay! No.
     
  4. peoplevsmedia

    peoplevsmedia Banned

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    I would love Hitler if he was not anti semite, I believe blaming Jews was his biggest mistake, but probably how he got elected. I praise Hitler for taking Germany out of greatest depression to greatest prosperity without killing any Jews. I am puzzled as to why he needed to start invading nation after nation, and those who think they have the answers, don't know (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    The Real American Thinker New Member

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    No.

    By the way, economically Hitler was a state capitalist (like Stalin), which disqualifies him from "liberalism." That, and Keynesianism is a form of capitalism, which is again rightist economics, not leftist economics.
     
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    No.

    Do you love Hitler?
     
  7. Idiocracy

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    Yeah fixing you talk about him all the time and you said you read mien kampf.
    You seem captivated by the man.

    Well that or you don't know what your talking about and compulsively lie to sound like an expert on all subjects to push your opinions as fact.

    Anyways I'm disappointed you other guys responded to such a stupid thread stop giving these people attention.
     
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    RtWngaFraud Banned

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    Well....the right wing embraced Bush and he IS directly connected to the Nazis so...I guess the question should be "Why does the GOP embrace Hitler"?
     
  9. FixingLosers

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    He did so because he cannot fuel the welfare state by robbing jews alone.
     
  10. FixingLosers

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    Yo, T-RAT, big mistake here, State capitalism as well as Keynesianism falls right into the category of corporatism, which is exactly the social model that people on the left proposes.

    Look at Denmark, the government runs a huge energy company, the government is a huge corporation, one that takes care of its employees — as freedom fundies like me would unfortunately call them — slaves well.
     
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    Not until he explain to me how welfare state could work in a country like germany without resulting in murdering and robbing (productive) citizens at home, and wars abroad.
     
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    By a leftie liberal? By a huge labour-rights toting idiot? A mental midget who think he can take down russia, and an imbecile who thought Rommel was an ace card to be pulled?

    Man you couldn't have done a better job in insulting me. But hey, I forgive ya.


    Since when did facts and historical records became lies?



    Source:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazi_Germany
     
  13. FixingLosers

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    Lemme correct it for ya:

     
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    Jesus! I didn't think the OP could be out-done!
     
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    Well, take a look at Germany now, and you'll see. :lol:

    On topic: no, there was far more to object to in Hitler than mere antisemitism. He was a moron, and having good fiscal policy was one of his few good moves. Also, keynesianism under Obama? LOL No.
     
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    You praise Hitler for taking Germany out of a great depression? explain how he did that without discriminating or killings any Jews in Germany? Do you know how many Jews died in Nazi Germany alone? to make way for German workers? Economic issues were secondary to Hitler the fact the economy picked up was directly linked to ruthless confiscation of wealth and war profits and nationalization of most businesses.
     
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    Reality is that Germany's then booming economy had, in the big picture, practically nothing to do with the Jews. It actually was hurt by what they did to the Jews, but other factors- some attributable to Hitler, some beyond the control of world government- caused their economic success.
     
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    As a liberal I hate big government, right wing conservatives like Hitler.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    He was a delusional megalomaniac with dreams of a Greater Reich, hence his need for the expansion of the 'master race' into anywhere he could invade.
    Would you also praise Hitler for his pathological hatred of, and desire to exterminate, Poles, communists, homosexuals, gypsies, Slavs and anyone else who didn't conform to the Aryan stereotype of racial superiority and purity?
    Are these fair prices to pay for economic stability?
     
  20. Libhater

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    While on the surface it does look like liberals would agree with with Hitler's policies, but as a bonus I would think that liberals would also like Hitler because he WAS an ANTI SEMITE leader. Obama certainly doesn't have any love loss for the jews, since he's a member of the Muslim brotherhood himself.
     
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    I'm a liberal. If you keep taking away bits of his personality, at some stage you will end up with someone who is not offensive in any way.

    I think the premise of your argument is that his "greater Germany" concept was driven by economic necessity, due to the socialist nature of his policies. I actually agree that he was seeking economic advantage (but not that it was necessary), but it was also the Nazi belief in the superiority of the German people that meant they could justify taking it from someone else by force of arms.

    If you took away the anti-semitism in the broader sense, that is they no longer believed the German people were better than everyone else, perhaps you would also take away the tendency for extra-national aggression.

    It is difficult to imagine what Nazi Germany would have looked like then, as these principles were at the heart of their existence. The Germans have proven themselves since WWII to be a very industrious and reasonable people,and before the war(s) certainly were already scientific leaders, so who knows where they might have been without the racism thing.

    A modern equivalent might be Isreal, the last Nationalist-Socialist government. I think that if they were to give up their "Jewish homeland" beliefs and their extra-territorial expansionism, Israel would be a very good country. They certainly are in many other aspects right now.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    This is possibly the most stupid thing you've managed to dredge up from what passes for a brain.
     
  23. Skeptical Heretic

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    Actually the main reason he started invading other countries was to get land that was taken off them after the first world war and since many people after the war felt they were cheated since they had to spend a lot in reparations that eventually caused hyper-inflation, it wasn't until other people came in and said they needed to change the currency did they get better.

    Now you could claim Hitler had some good ideas but people often forget he had a lot of bad ones that were very totalitarian like believing handicapped people weren't worth the money, blacks, gays, Jews were all inferior and were holding the German race back. Now add this on with a massive military complex you realize even with some good ideas like getting a good work ethic for the German people there were a lot of bad ones.

    Also he had a massive hate for communists, being a communist in Nazi Germany would be a one way ticket to the "labor camps" and possibly anyone who was a member of a workers union. Actually the funny thing is before the Nazis went for power the communists did though their efforts weren't that successful obviously. It turns out without a big following off the people you just get gunned down for trying to start a revolution.
     
  24. Libhater

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    No surprise that you would call any facts stupid. Next you'll be telling us that obama is actually an orthodox jew.
     
  25. snakestretcher

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    Well, if your 'fact' is that Obama is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood then you really need to get a grip. Or show me the evidence.
     

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