Human Greed. Every single problem is due to human greed.

Practice what you preach and give away all your money Athelite. Go find some homeless guy and give him all your money.

 

That's a good one blackroot, and it might just be enough to shut up some of this liberal/atheist nonsense.

 

I wasn't preaching, just pointing out an oxymoron.

You cannot be a Christian if you don't follow Christ, and following Christ isn't just believing he saved you but do what he does, what he says.

 

Would Christ suggest you are still obligated to provide for millions who want much more than fish and bread, when an idol called government is already stealing from the masses to provide more than that?

Would he believe that because the majority voted for it, their collective force is allowed to steal and redistribute as they see fit?

Governments break cardinal sins, and it does not make it right simply because they enforce the desires of 51% of the population. Democracy is greed and theft and murder through the collective military. Being greedy with what you have is simply greed.

 

Christ said to worry about what you do, not what your neighbor does.

 

Again, I was pointing out an oxymoron. I couldn't care less if so called Christians back-stab God with what they actually do.

 

Pretty much.

The balance between ambition and greed is a very tenuous one.

 

Great post...

 

Just a matter of time until they extort lower prices for them and themselves only to crush the competition.

 

He also indicated that stealing and killing were not good things. I guess that's where he figured morality would come into play. We have none so....all hail the green, and MORE of it I guess huh?

 

Utter nonsense, as soon as they “jack up their prices” competing business would develop to put them “out of business”. A free market thwarts the development of monopolies.

 

monopolies don't occur without help from politicians.

 

Pretty much yeah.

Greed is the source of all problems.

 

Obviously you do care about what christians do, or you wouldn't have employed a lame religious argument to further your cause.

I don't hear you offering to give up more of yours to help those in need.
Just pointing out YOUR oxymoron freeloader, and the fact that you don't know the proper use of the word oxymoron.

 

Nonsense TRAT. Corporations are about making money. Power is important only to the extent it helps that primary cause. Until Theodore Roosevel first began to involve the government in the private sector in a major way via various anti trust acts that were signed on his watch among other things the only American companys that did much in the way of lobbying were the railroads because the government owned the land upon which they wished to lay their tracks and makers of fire arms for obvious reasons. Lobbying as a corporate institution does not even hardly register until FDR and the Democrats passed the National Recovery Act in the thirties.

The main reason corporations which are defined as publically held entities do so much lobbying is self defense. WAMU Didn't get bailed out because it wasn't to small to worry about but because it did no Lobbying. Microsoft got hit with an Anti trust suit not because it was doing anythihg wrong but because it hadn't purchased any friends on capitol hil to watch it's six.

 

Except it doesn't, because before our anti-monopoly laws monopolies did exist, and quite handily. There's nothing stopping the monopolized business from crushing any competition.

 

In our society money and power are the same.

Where did I say otherwise? Of course it's self-defense. They stopped getting their way and stopped having total, untouched power over consumers and felt threatened.

The difference is their defense is not our defense.

 

This is a great post because even with anti-monopoly laws, monopolies STILL exist and are starving local business. I respect the Libertarian state of mind but this is their weakest perspective, free market. Free market always ends up in monopoly.

 

Greed is a big one, but I don't think it's actually the biggest. I think it comes second after falsehood.

 

But we need the government to be able to enforce laws on corporations just like we need it to be able to enforce laws on people. Otherwise it isn't the government and some other (non-democratic) entity -- presumably a corporation -- is the government.

 

Monopolies have actually been defined in the past as being too competitive for the market as a whole, like in Standard Oil when they lowered prices. Many times, monopolies can benefit the consumer with low prices, considering either one can compete on price (which 90% of businesses do) or differentiation. So, if price is usually a factor, for a business to effectively become a monopoly, many times it needed to have such a low price so that no one could compete (hence a monopoly). Basically, it is extremely hard to have a monopoly if your prices are absurdly high, because others will enter the market if prices are high on products (profit is there to be made).

Not really sure where I stand on monopolies, but to think that some monopolistic practices are bad (business limiting contracts and such) that also more natural monopolies from companies who have apparently become so much more effective in a certain market is also bad seems a little much. In my opinion, and most everyone else I presume, that we would love to be able to have a company that can offer its product at a ridiculously low price as well as beating out their competition in service as well. Wouldnt a company who really has a monopoly have to provide an equally good service without opening the door for a competitor to enter into the market?

But many capitalistic countries do not have anti trust laws and they get by just fine. Prices in those countries for such things do seem to be high, but that may have nothing to do with the lack of anti trust laws.

 

What happens when the corporations become the government!!!

 

The more government you have the less freedom you have. The more government you have the less the effect that elected leaders can have on the bureaucracy that actually runs things.

 

That's because the "free market" doesn't exist outside of the philosophy it is based on.