Nazism nyet? Not yet

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Moscow is dismayed after a number of countries failed to support a resolution designed to fight against the glorification of Nazism.

    The Foreign Ministry said Moscow regrets that the United States, the European Union and Ukraine have refused to support a UN General Assembly resolution aimed at battling the modern scourge of Nazism and other racist movements, the Russian Foreign Ministry said on Tuesday.

    "We are perplexed and upset that the United States and Canada were against, and EU states abstained, in the vote on the draft resolution, which gained the approval of the majority of UN member countries," the ministry said on its website.

    Equally disturbing from Moscow’s point of view is that Ukraine, which bore the brunt of Hitler’s Eastern blitzkrieg during World War II, chose not support the document.

    "The position of Ukraine, which once again preferred to abstain from condemning Nazism glorification instead of paying tribute to the memory of those who died fighting that evil is also regrettable," the ministry said.

    The ministry said it hopes the resolution will send a clear message to countries which it says should have taken resolute measures long ago to suppress the intensified attempts at glorifying Nazism, including Waffen SS veterans.

    The resolution was adopted at a meeting of the Third Committee of the UN General Assembly in New York City at the initiative of Russia, in coordination with the delegations of another 42 countries. Some 120 states voted in support of the resolution, three were against (the US, Canada and the Marshall Islands) and 57 abstained.

    The document expressed profound concern over the increase of extremist movements and political parties advocating “racism, ethno-centrism and xenophobia.” The resolution condemned glorification of the Nazi movement and Waffen SS veterans through monuments and public events that contain Nazi and neo-Nazi propaganda.

    Such actions defile the memory of the numerous victims of the Nazis, have a negative effect on the younger generation and are at variance with the stated commitments of UN member states, it stated.

    Of particular importance is the provision that condemns ongoing attempts to vandalize or destroy monuments in honor of those who fought against Hitler, as well as efforts to conduct illegal exhumation and reburial of their remains, the ministry statement concluded.

    Russia, which lost millions of soldiers and civilians in the fight against Nazism, has criticized a number of controversial moves by foreign governments. In 2007, for example, Estonia made the decision to relocate the Bronze Soldier, which marked the graves of several Soviet soldiers, from central Tallinn to the nearby Tallinn Military Cemetery.

    The move incited mass riots in the Estonian capital that resulted in the death of a Russian-native protester.

    The Russian draft was co-authored by Belarus, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, Angola, Bangladesh, Benin, Bolivia, Venezuela, Vietnam, Gabon, Guinea, Zimbabwe, India, Iraq, Iran, North Korea, Cote d'Ivoire, Cuba, Laos, Lebanon, Mauritania, Myanmar, Namibia, Niger, Nigeria, Nicaragua, Pakistan, Rwanda, the Seychelles, Syria, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda, Sri Lanka, Equatorial Guinea, Eritrea, Ethiopia and South Sudan.


    http://rt.com/politics/nazism-glorification-un-russia-war-807/

    Some interesting comments on the link;

    (NOT my words)



    'USA the U-nited S-tates of A-ntichrist and United Satan Army. Russian did one mistake after the orchestrated fall of communism, Russian nationalist and army should close the borders and KILL and communist and all jews to the last one. Second mistake was when Putin got the power he should close the borders and KILL all Jewish oligarchs and all jews in Russia. This thing will come finally to normal,because the real holocaust coming as was written in the book of Obadiah. In Russia is freedom for now , more then the stupid american degenerated idiots ever have. USA is just brain dead VVHORE working for the jewish usury banking mafia,vvhore house international. Hey jews you dig your graves by the faking Euro debt crisis as you did before WW2 i USA and Europe. Prepare your self the long waited salvation with deadly fire coming to you all to the last one . ..... Sieg Heil Adolf Hitler and all who fight against the jew communist svvines from USSR, USA and the England.'

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    Is it only me, or do others also recognize the huge transformation RT has taken? It started with the comments but now also the articles are more and more often like from a jewish western media outlet.

    But also the politics in Russia seems to become pro-zionist very fast:
    No involvement in Syria ("We do not support any side").

    Putin on his knees in Israel: Will always support the Holohoax (while Russia holds with the secret archives all the jokers, to put pressure on the EU, USA, Israel and the Zionists, if they become too loud: "Do you want us to release a Auschwitz-documents?").

    Banning of pro-Russian politics, that is against genocide and destruction of the Russian identity and culture through mass-immigration.

    I find it very strange, what is happening. Russia and Putin was a hope for us in the European zionist zone, but this hope is vanishing.

    Instead i have the impression, that the old Bolshevik anti-european card is being played. Just like the jews did with the Communists.


    If Putin believes, this will help Russia, he is totally wrong: the result will be, that the resources will land in the hand of the Zionists again and they will destabalize Russia with Islam. Good luck Mr. Putin, fighting against Islam, while propagating multiculturalism!

    It's sad to see, what this man has achieved for Russia (protected the resources and removed the jews from the media-control), that now he is falling into the trap of the Zionists.

    I hope that the Russians understand, that their enemy is not and never has been Germany or any other white european nation, but that all white nations are becoming destroyed with mass immigration and that those, that support this GENOCIDE are the real enemys. And they are not across the border, they are within our own countries and they try to criminalize the oposition against this GENOCIDE.
     
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    I know that there are a couple of Russians on PF.

    I hope they chance by, and can give their thoughts...
     
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    This is probably retaliatory since Russi rarely backs anything NATO pushes in the UN

    It could also be an attack on free speech, but that leads me to wonder why Europe didn't back it. They hate free speech
     
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    this is how we roll in the great white north:

    http://www.lnak.org/pdf/brd_resolution.pdf

    Resolution by the Parliament of Canada
    By unanimous consent, it was resolved, —

    (1) WHEREAS the Government of Canada has actively advocated for and continues to support the
    principles enshrined by the United Nations Universal Declaration on Human Rights and the United
    Nations General Assembly Resolution 260 (III) A of December 9, 1948;
    (2) WHEREAS the extreme forms of totalitarian rule practiced by the Nazi and Communist
    dictatorships led to premeditated and vast crimes committed against millions of human beings and their
    basic and inalienable rights on a scale unseen before in history;
    (3) WHEREAS hundreds of thousands of human beings, fleeing the Nazi and Soviet Communist
    crimes, sought and found refuge in Canada;
    (4) WHEREAS the millions of Canadians of Eastern and Central European descent whose families
    have been directly affected by Nazi and/or Communist crimes have made unique and significant,
    cultural, economic, social and other contributions to help build the Canada we know today;
    (5) WHEREAS 20 years after the fall of the totalitarian Communist regimes in Europe, knowledge
    among Canadians about the totalitarian regimes which terrorised their fellow citizens in Central and
    Eastern Europe for more than 40 years in the form of systematic and ruthless military, economic and
    political repression of the people by means of arbitrary executions, mass arrests, deportations, the
    suppression of free expression, private property and civil society and the destruction of cultural and
    moral identity and which deprived the vast majority of the peoples of Central and Eastern Europe of
    their basic human rights and dignity, separating them from the democratic world by means of the Iron
    Curtain and the Berlin Wall, is still alarmingly superficial and inadequate;
    (6) WHEREAS Canadians were instrumental during the 1980’s in raising global awareness of crimes
    committed by European totalitarian Nazi and Communist regimes by founding an annual “Black
    Ribbon Day” on August 23, to commemorate the legal partnership of these two regimes through the
    infamous Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact and its secret protocols;
    BE IT RESOLVED THAT every victim of any totalitarian regime has the same human dignity and
    deserves justice, remembrance and recognition by the Parliament and the Government of Canada, in
    efforts to ensure that such crimes and events are never again repeated;
    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Parliament and the Government of Canada unequivocally
    condemn the crimes against humanity committed by totalitarian Nazi and Communist regimes and
    offer the victims of these crimes and their family members sympathy, understanding and recognition
    for their suffering;
    BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED THAT the Government of Canada establish an annual
    Canadian Day of Remembrance for the victims of Nazi and Soviet Communist crimes on
    August 23, called “Black Ribbon Day”, to coincide with the anniversary of the signing of
    the infamous pact between the Nazi and Soviet Communist regimes
     
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    End of Soviet era, as people of soviet society we changed to right wing policies. Ah I hate this even I am not Russian. I think later we will realise is wrong understandings of freedom from Soviets and to shout on Russians occupants and so on we gained nothing apart poverty, unemployment, no social security.
    So let see whom is winner nazis or socialist. Am for Socialism.
     
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    The problem is very simple ...

    To destroy the USSR americans used the theme about soviet occupation of Baltic countries and Ukraine .(*)

    So now they support anti-Russian sentiment in these countries, including through glorification of the local SS legionnaires who fought the (*) against the Soviet Union on the
    side of Hitler.

    Thus the anti-Nazi UN resolution is resolution against the U.S. interests in those countries.

    Is it any wonder that the U.S. voted against?


    Waffen SS veterans hold official memorial march in Latvian capital Riga




    http://rt.com/news/riga-latvia-ss-march/
     
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    Could you tell me who killed 27 000 000 of Soviet People in WW2 ?

    Maybe it was the Martians who killed our people?
     
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    What you quoted was not my words, but those from the comments section of the link.

    I made that clear.
     
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    Ok....
     
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    Cool.

    What part of Russia are you in?
     
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    Western Siberia .
     
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    As long as they permit the glorification of Bolshewism in Russia, they should not bother about anything else.
     
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    What do you know about " Bolshevism in Russia" except that CNN and Fox News told you ?

    I lived " In Bolshevizm" and I can compare .
     
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    Fully agree with you.

    But you have to understand that there are different Jews in Russia, and sometimes they fight with each other.

    There are some Russian Jews who may hate Americans, and these Jews may have supported Putin and did not mind when Putin put some other Jews behind the bars.

    Here is what a Russian professor writes about different groups of Jews.




    I think that Dugin is either stupid, or he is just a liar. It is possible that Putin was convinced that some Jews are good for Russia and that they support Russia, but in this case Putin is just a fool and a tool of Zionists.

    There may have been some discrepancies between different types of Jews, but they basically supported each other.
    Without the money of American Jews Russian Bolsheviks wouldn't have any chance.

    If Putin was influenced by people like Dugin and believes that there are "Eurasian Jews" who love Russia more that their own ilk, then Russia is in danger!
     
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    I do know a lot about Bolshevism and I talked to many eyewitnesses.
     
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    Well, Stalin was not a Russian and he didn't care a lot about the "canon fodder".
    Many died because of Stalin, they were put into the GULAG after WWII. Others died during WWII in Siberia. It is stupid to believe that all people who died during WWII were killed by the "wicked Germans".
     
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    It is an attack on Ukrainian, Estonian, Latvian and Lithuanian Patriotism.

    These former Soviet republics fought during WWII on the side of the Third Reich, because they hated Bolshevism. They killed a lot of Communists during WWII, because these Communists were responsible for crimes against Ukrainians or Estonians. It happens that many of these killed Communists were Jews. That is why both Jews and Russians are interested in condemning National Socialism, but on the other hand they will never condemn Bolshevism.
     
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    In Russia over the past 10 years by the reason of heroin , grown in Afghanistan under the supervision of the U.S. military, died more people than were executed in 30 years of Stalin's rule ....

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    lmfao I love it when the resident Jew hating swine try to make threads like this, bottom line the former Soviet Union aka "Russia" has endemic anti-semitism on a par not seen anywhere else in the world except for within the realms of the Islamic Imperialist pedophile worshipers.
     
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    To tell the truth is, when I came to this forum, I was shocked about the level of anti-Semitism of Americans. It seemed to me that I was in the Third Reich...
     
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    I am quite sure that Putin is not all sweetness and light, that is for sure. However, he strikes me as both intelligent, and a man who loves his country. Something which cannot always be said for many leaders that have been in high office, in the US, and beyond.

    I recall reading an article, some time back, in which a man whose life work is to study all international organised crime said that the worse, most brutal, and most pervasive - Russian mafia. More so than even the Colombians and Triads even, he stated. He had a lot of experience in the field. The Russian Jewish mafia have used Israel as a crime haven. For them to travel to the US freely, direct from Russia - not so easy. However, by using the gateway of Israel, it is v much easier.

    Many of the Russian mafia are known to even spend their winter in Israel.

    However, as much as Putin may be smart, and may love his country, there is something else to ponder. We all know that the US was infiltrated and subverted by organised Jewry, anyone that denies that now, is simply not worth entertaining, since there is such a body of evidence.

    The US itself will have to decide one day, if they have any pride left, or if they are to be reduced to being little more than a cash cow and golem, for Israeli Jews. I sense the consensus will change, as all things do, and that in time, Americans will want to get back in touch with their own country again, and not see the sad sight of two Presidential candidtates both fighting to prove how loyal they will be...to Jews in Israel!!!!:lick:

    But we never really ask - to what extent has organised Jewry been pervasive in Russia? It is v much a question worth asking, for if it has happened in the US, we need to at least look as to what degree it has penitrated Russia, Putin notwithstanding.

    Two images stuck in my mind, from some time ago.

    One was of various US Presidents (Bush certainly), sitting at a big desk.

    To the left and right of him, there must have been about ten (looked Orthodox) Jews, literally around him, like a U shape.

    An almost identical picture I have seen of Putin.

    Jack
     
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    Generalplan Ost


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generalplan_Ost


    Generalplan Ost (GPO) (English: Master Plan East) was a secret Nazi German plan for the colonization of Central and Eastern Europe).[1] Implementing it would have necessitated genocide[2] and ethnic cleansing on a vast scale to be undertaken in the these European territories occupied by Germany during World War II.
    to be physically eliminated and another 15% to be sent to Western Siberia.

    Russians 50-60%
    Belorusians 75%
    Ukrainians 65%
    Lithuanians 85%
    Latvians 50%
    Estonians 0%

    Whatever happened, Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia were to be deprived of their statehood, while their territories were to be included in the eastern area of German settlement. This meant that Latvia and especially Lithuania would be covered by the deportation plans, though in a somewhat milder form than the Slav - "voluntary" emigration to western Siberia
     
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    Correct.

    Communism was the most evil thing to happen in Russia, it accounted for more innocent lives lost, more gulags, more oppression (of their own and other nations), than National Socialism ever did.

    And it endured for longer.

    And the Commie Red Army never answered for their disgusting catalogue of war crimes, including the rape of almost women in Berlin, and kids too.

    And people wanted to get out of Commie countries all the time, remember East Germans?

    It is hard to get precise figures, but there were many more Russians, mainly white Christians, who were starved and butchered, than anyone could pin on 'evil Germans'.

    I must stress that many Russians are well aware of all of this, they were victims of Jewish Bolsheviks and communism.

    All the records of the 'holocaust' are also held by the Russians. Most of which do not have full disclosure, for some reason.
     
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    Well, I am shure more than 27 Millions Russians died because of the alcohol misuse since 1945.
    Bad for Russian, but people who died because of drug misuse were not executed.
     
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    Are you a Semite?
     

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