White Businessman Shoots Black Teen Sitting In Back Seat of Car

I highly doubt that the SYG defense is even relevant to this case, unless it can be proven that the teen did indeed aim a shotgun at the perpetrator.

 

I don't know where you live pal, but i'm pretty sure that's not the default reaction in any part of the country. Not to mention the shooter did the approaching.

Maybe the immediate reaction of black kids who see a white man approaching their car from now should be to reach for a firearm. It isn't right, but that doesn't matter. People are scared, and will act on their fear.

 

I agree but then again, a couple gang members got out of a murder with it. A guy shot a kid hiding on his porch without saying a word to him, and got away with it. It's been successful almost 60% of the time. It a seriously f-ked up law.

 

Ya know what Uncle Ferd says...

... `bout dat don't cha?...

... RELOAD!

 

Fear plus firearms makes for courtesy all around except for those people who have a mental illness.

It's not good to backtalk to strangers because they might be mentally ill and armed.

 

I think it's important to remember though, that the law itself doesn't decide cases, but rather, how it's interpreted. I'm just saying that in this case, SYG shouldn't apply if it cannot be proven that the perpetrator fired his weapon under circumstances declared justifiable under SYG.

 

It's obvious that the jurors are OK with people killing people willy-nilly.

 

Who gets to claim the SYG defense?

 

Depends on the state. In my state of California there is no stand your ground statute. If a stand your ground law applies in the jurisdiction of the kids death the dead kid is the one who would have been entitled to stand his ground if he had a gun.

 

Well thats what most folks think when an armed grown man shoots and kills a 17yr old teenager that he pursued on the street. It wasn't like Trayvon broke in his house, tried to rob him or even tried to break into his truck. Zimmerman set that whole set of events into motion.

There is nothing we can do but wait, but from the info we have today Dunn murdered that kid. Now tomorrow if they found the kid had a gun and aimed it at Dunn then the whole situation changes.

 

Well we will see what kind of comfort Dunn gets.

 

I don't need to know the circumstances. This kid is sitting in the backseat of a car and ends up dead because his music is too loud which is what this basically boils down to. Now if the situation was reversed folks like you would be crying for Justice. Whats next you gonna start calling this kid a druggie and a thug also.

 

You really want to live in a society where speaking your mind could be a death sentence? If this were the case, I think 60% of the loudmouths here in New York would be dead by now. That number would jump to 80% if we were just including those who drive haha.

 

You have all you need to know because it doesn't take much to convince a closed mind.

 

Great point and also the biggest flaw with the law: It doesn't require that anyone prove they were in any danger at all.

This is why whackjobs and mindless drones love this law. Intelligent thought, logic and reason simply aren't required.

 

No. More liberal hysteria.

The only "EVIDENCE" we have is a short article from a far left newspaper. And that paper says Dunn fired his weapon 8 OR 9 times. It makes no mention of the number of hits. It also does not mention what the teen was doing. Was HE pulling a weapon at the time? You don't know, I don't know. Did he THREATEN to pull a weapon? We don't know. Dunn's lawyer claims self defense. But we don't know WHY. Agreed, the INITIAL news report looks bad for Dunn. Newspaper reports are not EVIDENCE of anything except some reporters opinion.

The difference between this and Zimmerman is that Dunn was arrested immediately. GZ was not. The police looked at the EVIDENCE at the scene and decided GZ acted in self defense. We know GZ was attacked by TM who has a record of bad behavior and contempt for authority. We also know that TM could have killed GZ by banging his head on the sidewalk as the 17 year old teenager did that killed a policemen the same way.

We know next to nothing about the Dunn story.

 

The police investigator has examined the car.. I believe his name is Schooner.

There are dozens of reports from all sorts of news sources.

Duntz is liar.. He lied about the shotgun. He fled the scene and then fled the jurisdiction of Duval county..

If he had truly thought they were armed and dangerous gangbangers, he would have LEFT the Gate Station NOT started a gunfight.

It will all come out. He's a drunk and a menace.

 

LOL! Liberal hysteria reported ONLY by a far left newspaper!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/11/3...-station-draws-comparisons-to-trayvon-martin/

As per FOX (that Liberal Rag):
"Dunn parked beside the sport utility vehicle occupied by Davis and three other young men and told them to turn the music down, police said. Dunn exchanged words with Davis, who was in the back seat, and started firing. He later told police he felt threatened."

Oh I've missed this guy! Been traveling around this great earth of ours for a few months and although most people aren't all that memorable, but ol Dan is "special".

 

If Duntz had a brain, he would have put his hands over his ears and SMILED at the boys.

Most people respond positively when others behave in ways that are friendly.

I am a very old broad and I get good results.

 

The race of those involved here really doesn't matter, except to those who have issues with race in general. What matters is that an armed man shot an unarmed teenager, just like with the Trayvon Martin case. I could honestly not care less what color of skin Martin and Zimmerman have, or the color of skin of the two involved with this incident, I'm interested in the details of the crime itself. It appears there's even less evidence of justification here than there was in the Martin/Zimmerman case.

Those who want to see things in terms of black and white, will. Those who are interested in the truth realize those are circumstantial when it comes to whether or not a crime was actually committed.

 

We don't know the full story yet. Is it possible the teens had guns themselves... I am thinking there is more to the story than what is in this article. Yet another attempt by the media to stir the racial pot for ratings.

 

Sure, that's my MO. I just bend over and take it how every the young black punks want to shove it at me.

The friendly tolerant way we have been treating these kids have given rise to more and more unfriendly actions from them.

Our schools are so tolerant that our kids do as they like and are as dumb as rocks.

 

That's directly because of the lawsuit happy society we live in, which is a direct result of greed and wealth worship.

 

What sort of world do you live in?

Don't you know that you can get what you want without grabbing a gun?

Duntz was drunk..

 

The Fox story is considerably different than the Sentinel story. But is still a media report. I do not look for FACTS from ANY media. Once they MAY have been interested in NEWS. Now they are all interested in either agenda or ratings.

We have NO EVIDENCE, and won't be getting evidence anytime soon. And the comparison to Zimmerman/Martin is a clear effort to push either agenda or ratings. There is no comparison to the 2.

GZ, a Hispanic, shot and killed an attacker.

Dunn, a Caucasian shot and killed a black kid that may or may not have been threatening Dunn.

2 different cases with little alike except a 17 year old black was killed in both cases. South Chicago likely had 3 to 10, 17 year old blacks shot to death this month. Some by Hispanics, some by other blacks and some by unknown and uncared, WHO did it.

The case of a 17 year old KILLING a law officer by pounding his head on a concrete sidewalk is a much better comparison with the Zimmerman/Martin case.