idiot athiests at it again

They are. But both are fine with me. There is no right to not be offended.

 

Specious? That would assume you understand Christian theology better than I do, but really, I just happen to know a little more about said the theology, because *shocker* I practice it, and you remain ignorant due to a lack of interest.

 

Where did I state that I have a right not to be offended?

I'm saying that most of the atheists I've met are annoying dicks, that's all.

 

I don't think that's quite the argument to make. It's more that because miraculous events require a far more comprehensive line of backing to be considered reliable, one should not accept historical writings that posit them as truth on their own.

 

You didn't. I was just pointing out that the fact you would want to punch someone calling your mom a whore is not relevant to anything.

I'm saying that most of the atheists I've met are annoying dicks, that's all.[/QUOTE]

I live the heart of the Bible belt. Trust me, atheists have no monopoly there.

 

It certainly is relevant to something. When we purposefully attempt to offend each other we isolate, draw lines, and segregate society. When people put up signs that say: God hates (*)(*)(*)(*) they are attempting to harm, hurt, and isolate gays and lesbians.

It is poor behavior.

Purposefully baiting a "group" of people for the sole purpose of harming or hurting their feelings is (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)ry of the highest order and diminishes your ability to call yourself an intellectual without irony or fits of laughter.

We ought not to be engaging in this. As a member of society, as an anarchist I believe in self-policing by saying this behavior is wrong and bad for the community.

Okay? What does that have to do with this ad? You think this ad was an act of kindness? Are you saying this ad wasn't meant to hurt someone?

This isn't a discussion of the Bible Belt but of this ad.

 

I don't find it difficult to understand.
If you show a picture of muhammed, you will invoke emotions in muslims that are akin to <insert your most distressing thought for YOU here>.

I kinda imagine that the way I feel about rapists is the same way they [Muslims] feel about people who mock muhammed (or show images of him etc).
Some people (I might call sick) don't feel the same way about rapists that I do... I guess there are people like me (that Muslims might call sick) that don't feel the same way about seeing mohummed that Muslims do.


Cultures and beliefs cannot be compared easily because we are blinded by our own.

 

"Ever notice how atheism isn't really about promoting what they believe but merely about disrespecting what other people believe? Why is that?"

Turn about is fair play.

Oh,yes. I forgot. When religious types do it, THEN it's OK.

Don't confuse the fact (which I cheerfully admit - see Josephus) that Jesus existed with what organized religion has turned him into and wants to force upon decent citizens.

 

If you're five and still wet the bed occasionally.

 

Maybe it is. But so what? People get offended by an almost infinite number of things. Many movies, songs, books, etc. purposely offend to make a larger point. Hell, some Christian group was even offended that Ellen Degeneres is making JCP commercials. And that is a good thing on the whole. I would rather that than have humans become Borg.

Well, telling me how to live my life is far more offensive IMO. And many of that group here in Dixie do just that.

 

The "so what" would be that the immaturity that leads to these types of billboards will invariably also lead to persecution once majority is reached. It always does. The Nazi's didn't start out saying that they wanted to rid the world permanently of undesirables. No, they started by making jokes and using ridicule. It desensitizes.

I don't go around making (*)(*)(*) jokes. Never have even if they aren't around. It's just ugly and if encouraged can have awful consequences.

It's about self-policing and saying when people are being (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s.

Then start a thread about that and I'll say the same on that one. This is about this particular ad and what allegedly happens to you in Dixie has (*)(*)(*)(*) all to do with it.

Obviously you have no problem with taking out huge billboards just to offend people since you seem to be justifying the behavior with the goose-gander fallacy. So no one should bother saying its pure (*)(*)(*)(*)ery what Westboro Baptist has to say.

Like I'm not really getting why some people think that certain groups are okay to be made fun of and others are not. That's illogical and repugnant. We should encourage a society where we treat everyone and their opinions with respect and dignity. When we can achieve that we can work on being nice.

 

When society starts persecuting Christians I will be against that.

I am not encouraging anything. But I support free speech.

I thought I was very clear on that. I fully support the right of whoever put up the billboard to do it.

It is illogical. But that does not apply to me.

I agree.

 

It will be too late then.

Who doesn't support free speech? Who wants the government telling you what you can say?

However, I'm sure if someone said around you or posted a billboard that said "All Blacks Are Dumb" or "All Gays Have HIV" you'd probably say something. As would I and any other half-decent person.

It's okay to say when someone is being an (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*) and when you don't tell them you think that, they believe that what they are saying and doing is well received. These are billboards that are huge and in a highly public place. This isn't table talk.

That's not the point. Who on this thread said they have no legal right to do it?

If it does not apply, then you've said you felt this was in poor taste?

Really?

 

It's also not going to happen.

People say that stuff all the time. On these boards even! What does that have to do with anything?

That's what I said!

 

No one expected the Spanish Inquisition or that Stalin would have exterminated 20 million of his own countrymen. Maybe it won't happen in 2 years, but if we continue to demonize people, say that the world would be better without their religion, ridicule and make fun of them we are heading in that direction.

It has to do with telling people that cruelty and vulgarity is not acceptable. People are social creatures and like to be liked. We do have an affect on others depending upon how we present it.

I don't sit around and let people talk about blacks, gays, Jews, etc around me. That makes it appear as though I agree and condone.

 

I think you are reading far too much into a billboard. And I have never heard an atheist claim that Christians need to be purged. Claiming the world would be better off without the religion does not equate to genocide.

I support your right to tell the billboard folks anything you wish.

 

I'm not sure why every time Christianity is questions, the go-to responses to to call Muslims violent terrorists. Pretty ridiculous.

And there is no serious evidence of Jesus, and even if he was a real person, the idea that he's some magical sky daddy is nothing more than a myth until proven otherwise. Get over it.

 

You guys keep proving my point here. By your own admission, atheism holds no beliefs of its own and can only react to the beliefs of others. Isn't that the very definition of reactionary nihilism? I'm curious why none of you want to acknowledge this.

It's not about that. I don't think anybody is truly disputing their legal right to put that up. I'm more questioning their agenda. Because it's clearly an attack on someone else's views rather than a promotion of one's own views. So my question is why? Compare this to a hypothetical sign an Islamic group might have put up promoting Mohammad. There would be nothing inherently in that sign attacking anyone else's beliefs. It would simply be a promotion of what's important to someone else. Do you see the difference? It's promoting what you love instead of bashing what you hate. Whenever someone puts up a hate/bash sign, their motives become questionable. Especially if they have no beliefs of their own to even present as an alternative. So what is the purpose of this atheist sign?

Which, by default, makes atheism what? Say it with me now.......... REACTIONARY NIHILISM! As it believes in nothing by itself - nihilism - and is entirely dependent upon theism to even exist - reactionary.

Doesn't sound so intellectual when you say it like that, does it?

Oh, okay, are we going to play that game? Fine, I'll play along. Here you go......

 

If by "disrespecting," you mean questioning or calling false, maybe that's because atheism is not about a belief. derp. And it's ignorant to put all atheists together. You theists don't seem to like it. How about I go around claiming you're all a bunch of stupid, violent scum bags because some theists are stupid, violent scum bags?

 

You need to read some of my other posts in this thread. You're getting defensive.

 

LOL

And yes you are certain, that the world would be better without the religion, any religion. Yes, I am show my true-self, my anti-theism. And proud of it. The history has proven that religion is the most harmful thing that can exist in this world, and that oriental born religions are really dangerous, absolutely to the contrary of the destroyed pagan religions of Europe that were not so harmful however equally stupid.

And there is no reason to believe persecution or whatever more when the atheism is the "belief" more persecuted in the world, and in USA atheists don't have the same rights as religious people, for example they cannot be jury... They can be fired of the job if they result to be atheist, thing that passed in Switzerland.

Atheists just make fun and critizicase and make to think to people with absurd beliefs, because they see logic believe in God, but they don't see logic in believe in Zeus, I don't see the reason behind that.

An individualist telling that people are social creatures, that is laughable If you hate the society and the social values, why are you using this argument? Be consistent of your own values.

Yes, but if someone has stupid beliefs, don't expect that people won't laugh on that beliefs. The beliefs are not respectable. The beliefs are subject to critizism and jokes. If you are truelly social and you have strong beliefs in something you won't care about what is said of your beliefs, just you will ignore that.

 

What is this! A photo for ants?

 

Never been to reddit have you?

 

Reddit? LOL. Do you think that many members of this forum have visited that place xD?

 

If Christians really gave a rat's erse about their religion, then they would all be acting more as Jesus had commanded.

They don't.

They prefer to be war like, and embrace psycho's like John Hagee.