Kuwait's New Blasphemy Law

yep all it takes is caring about peoples wellbeing over religion

 

In some cultures religious convictions are their guiding principles. People are largely very conservative in Kuwait.. family is very important as is a peaceful, civil society.

While everyone is NOT pious.. there exists a social contract.. an expectation of behavior.

One thing is that they tend to put the rights of the victim and community ahead of the rights of the perpetrator.

 

A functional justice system has to balance the rights of the accused with the rights of victims.

That being said, insulting someone's religion doesn't involve a victim.

 

So, while we're on this topic, would you defend a law being put into place here that criminalizes insulting religion?

 

Kuwait is just trying to catch up with other Muslim societies.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/12/22/net-us-saudi-website-apostasy-idUSBRE8BL0DA20121222

 

In supposedly non theocratic and secular Israel, a Christian can go to prison for up to 5yrs, if he is deemed to be trying to convert a Jew, to Christianity.

Did you know this?

Even if the Jew was not religous to start with.

 

...or maybe Kuwait is just trying to beat Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood to the punch with draconian idiocy.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...finitely-worse-than-under-the-old-regime.html

 

that seems oppressive and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up as well yes

 

Blasphemy is nothing short of simple insecurity in your own faith.

 

All I can find is a law from 1977 that "prohibits any person from offering material benefits as an inducement to conversion." In short, you can't bribe someone to convert in Israel.

In addition to this, it appears that this law has never actually been enforced.

 

I'm assuming you mean "Blasphemy laws" are representative of that.

 

Yes. ---

 

I already answered that question.

This is the US.. we are allowed to insult anyone and any thing...

 

Good manners ? You mean like wife-beating, pedophilia (age of consent is BIRTH), rape, slavery, animal cruelty, severe misogyny, torture/mutilation, ....stuff like that ?

 

I would imagine their violence against women is about 1000 times more than in the USA, and it's done openly there and fully accepted. What else is new ?

 

Literacy rates has nothing to do with it. The people in charge in the government are quite literate, especially in the Koran and Hadith. They are the only ones who enact stoning or other things like it. According to the Hanbali jurist Ibn Qudamah, "Muslim jurists are unanimous on the fact that stoning to death is a specified punishment for the married adulterer and adulteress. The punishment is recorded in number of traditions and the practice of Muhammad stands as an authentic source supporting it. This is the view held by all Companions, Successors and other Muslim scholars with the exception of Kharijites."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning

 

Come now.. you don't know what is accepted or how people behave in Saudi Arabia or anywhere else in the world, Protectionist.

 

Do you get all your info from Wiki?

Ibn Qudamah was from Syria and died in Damascus.

Stonings and honor killings are extremely rare in Saudi Arabia and treated like murder.

Stoning for adultery is not in the Koran.. only in some hadith and is not considered valid by most scholars even with a confession and four witnesses.

 

Source : THe Bible -

The three methods of executing criminals found in the Bible are stoning, burning, and hanging.


As opposed to Wiki - here's Jewish Virtual , FWIW.

Stoning was the instinctive, violent expression of popular wrath (Ex. 17:4, 8:22; Num. 14:10; I Sam. 30:6; I Kings 12:18; II Chron. 10:1, and is often expressly prescribed as a mode of execution (Lev. 20:2, 27, 24:16; Num. 15:35; Deut. 13:11, 17:5, 21:21, 22:21, et al.). As the survival of vindicta publica, it was and remained characterized by the active participation of the whole populace (Lev. 24:16; Num. 15:35; Deut. 17:7; et al.) – all the people had to pelt the guilty one with stones until he died. Stonings were presumably the standard form of judicial execution in biblical times (Lev. 24:23; Num. 15:36; I Kings 21:13; II Chron. 24:21).

Talmudic law distinguished four methods of judicial execution (arba mitot bet din): stoning, burning, slaying, and strangling.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0004_0_03929.html


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btw - not that two wrongs make a right but I understand so-called honor killing is much more widely carried out in India (Hindu/Muslim + Sikhs communities ) than elsewhere.

Few years ago while on holidays in Sardinia - local news reported a tragic old fashioned Italian style family vendetta-honor killing. Cant remember it reaching international attention.

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Read my sig.

No you aren't.

 

You are doing it, and suffer no consequences other than some embarassing gotchas or specific slapdowns from others expressing criticisim. Yeah I know you not american, but that is irrelevant in the wired world.


Just because the vast majority of americans aren't interested in your paranoid hate messages about jew control of the world, doesn't mean they would censor free speech.

 

I am wondering why anti-semites whine about being conspired against with regard to freedom of speech when they post thousands of such posts freely. Serious disconnect there.

 

Kuwait's New Blasphemy Law is the topic.

Please, for once, try not to make this about me.

Thanks

 

How the hell do you KNOW?

 

It sounds like you don't value that freedom much.