EU's Christmas slap to fascism.

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    Not so long ago the EU would have buckled and given up human rights organisations to scurrilous prosecution by neoZionist extremists. And worse. The behaviour of the Israeli government over the past years, however, has focused European minds upon the differences between what the Zionist propaganda machinery says about Israel and the reality of Israeli actions.
    So, for the time being at least, peace groups inside Israel, humanitarian organisations, Netanyahu's political enemies and even outspoken individuals are relatively safe from whatever the Knesset's fascists had in mind for them.

    Happy christmas to all anti-fascists inside Israel. We are always careful to remember Israel's progressives .
     
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    Don't be fooled. The EU is little more than a scam, designed really, to serve a number of functions, none of which would appear on their About Us section, of their own site :)

    To weaken the national sovereignty of a given nation(s). It does do that, there is no question, is is very much against a strong national sovereign nation. To create legions of jobs for faceless men and women, that the public all pay for, yet would not know, if they walked down the street. Not much 'austerity going on with their salaries, perks, and expenses. To literally trick given countries out of coining their own currency, thus enslaving them to the new currency, that was the Euro. Read up on how the EU and Goldman Saches colluded to trick Greece into it.

    I would not trust a thing that the EU do or say. Sure, from time to time, they may lob a biscuit your way, or condemn Israel, in verbal terms, very meekly, but, in the main, this is all just BS, ALL of it is bluster, aimed at buying time, to let Israel go on with their land theft and murder fests.

    If the EU had any real nuts, it would slap sanctions, and tough one's on Israel. Collectively, Europe is a large market, economists say collectively larger than the US. Therefore, tough sanctions on Israel would hurt them, you bet it would. Big time. They would not like it. This is good. There is no doubt the EU could do this, esp since they meekly went along with sanctions, on Iran (know one really knows what they are for, just that they exist).

    But we all know who dreamed them up, and first bullied congress into madating them, right? Yes, the little state from afar.

    Do you honestly think that with people like Angela Sheckel being the poster child of the EU, that the EU will ever do anything, than pander, or turn a blind eye, to Israel?

    Jack
     
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    Blue, Moon..? ;)

    All talk that Hamas and Hezbollah are condemned by the EU as "terrorist" organizations is fake, as one penetrates the matter and sees from where derived the impetus for these "European" decisions. They are always not the result of conclusions drawn volontary by the EU after their own incitament, but something that is the end-result of a long process of systematic lobbying by Jewish Israel-affiliated organizations based in Europe. If it hadn't been for the labour of these Jewish organizations, these decisions by the EU would never have beeen introduced. For instance the Swedish foreign minister Carl Bildt, (for a country which in 2009 presides over the EU), has himself earlier publicly declared that there must be a political dialogue with Hamas in Gaza - but that was before the now-succesful Jewish campaign to isolate Hamas.

    After the Gaza massacre 2008-2009 the Jewish infiltrated governments of France (Jews Sarkozy, Kouchner) and Britain (Jews Miliband, I. Lewis, Sir Cohen) are implementing a EU decision to aid in the Israeli blockade of Gaza.


    "European" or Jewish initiatives?

    On the so-called "European" initiatives regarding Israel and Gaza 2009. "EU" to send warships to aid in the blockade of Gaza!

    •EU pledges navy patrols to prevent Gaza smuggling
    From EUObserver.com. Note that this article was also reproduced on the homepage of the European Jewish Congress (EJC). On how (Jew-run) EU countries pledge to help Israel's blockade.

    •Berlusconi To Sharon – “Israel’s Natural Place Is In The EU”
    From Arutz Sheva - Israel National News

    •Israel's EU upgrade
    Editorial in the Jerusalem Post. The upgrade includes "an examination of possible Israeli integration into the European single market"."The upgrade is also welcome for the economic fruits it promises to bring to an already robust partnership" as "the EU is Israel's major partner".

    •Letter on the Upgrading of Relations EU-Israel
    By Hiyam Noir, Palestine Free Voice, 6/04/2009

    Europe colludes in Israeli trade scams
    By Brian Whitaker, The Guardian. The EU bans trading with 'illegal' Jewish settlements, but accepts their goods under Israeli guise.



    •Europe irresolute over Israeli trade fraud
    By Brian Whitaker, The Guardian


    •Meet Israel’s European friends - Who are the fools that reward Israel’s criminal behaviour?
    By Stuart Littlewood, Redress information, 15 December 2008


    •European court: Israel boycotts are unlawful discrimination
    The Jerusalem Post, July 20, 2009


    In 2001, a London Guardian reporter noted with outrage that Israel has blatantly "cheated and lied and abused the trust" it had in trade agreements with European nations. "No sooner had the ink dried on [Israeli minister] Shimon Peres's signature [to a Euro-Israeli trade pact]," notes Brian Whitaker,

    "than Israel began to cheat. To imagine that this was due to a few bent officials in the customs department would be a mistake: cheating was built into the system and it was carried out with the blessing of the Israeli government ... In 1997, as a result of complaints, the European commission sent a delegation to Israel to find out why Brazilian orange juice arriving in Europe had been certified as Israeli in order to qualify for preferential rates. The problem, the delegation concluded, went way beyond orange juice: Israeli customs officials simply could not be trusted. The problem was so serious, their report said, that 'the validity of ALL preferential certificates issued by Israel, for ALL products,' was in doubt."
    [Brian Whitaker, The Guardian, 30 April 2001] (see also our article on Jews and financial scandals)

    http://www.radioislam.org/islam/english/index_eu.htm
     

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    Why don't they simply outlaw the State of Israel?

    Or better yet, stop accepting imports from Israel.

    I have an idea.....why don't you and Your moon buddy exchange e-mails and do your little evil Nazi dance in private? That would save us from pretty much half of the B.S. posts in this forum.

    We get it, you think the Israelis are bad.....We get it.....MOVE ON PLEASE!
     
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    Why don't you?

    You don't own the thread, and apart from the usual tired old personal attacks, added ZERO.
     
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    Actually, we're not fascists, there are no fascists in Israel. You should mind about your saying. It's all rubbish!
     
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    these lines are very poorly translated, could you have them done up better please?
     
  8. moon

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    Try intimidation and denial on the Israeli press. After all, that's where the charges of fascism come from.

    Of course it's fascism. It acts like fascism and it smells like fascism and so it's perceived as fascism. If you'd care to discuss fascism- then I'll be happy to post a definition which neoZionists can use as a mirror.
     
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    I'll do it anyway;

    That's currently neoZionist Israel- and the United nations must quickly do something about it.
     
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    I know its a bout to sign an "open sky" agreement with Isrtael very soon,\

    Other than that your post reeks of the usual doom-day fantasy you hope for Israel, the Arabs in Israel want to live there because of their way of life - not because they cant leave thier house, I mean if reality was so harsh for them as you imply - worse than Nazi Germany right? - then they would have took off just like the Jews did or tried to do. the dempgraphics also prove the life standart for Arab Israelis is the heighest in the ME.
     
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    From memory, you tell me you are 14, so I am going to cut you some slack.
     
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    This is where you lose all credibility lumping all Jews together as if they all have the same agenda. the Milibands are Jewish yes, but that does not mean they lack independence of thought. Dad I think was anti zionist or if not extremely critical. Mum is a member of JFJFP, Jewish groups have no idea where they stand on Israel but my bet would be a bit more independently minded than most.

    David has argued strongly against attacking Iran.
     
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    Was he part of Blair's lying cabinet?

    The one that lied my people into Iraq?

    [video=youtube;FP0Lij6vDIY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FP0Lij6vDIY&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
     
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    That has nothing to do with your stereotyping him as if he were a Netanyahu type or Christian zionist type which Blair was. You chose to depict him and his brother in a stereotypical way which could not be further from the truth. That is how your antisemitism blasts itself out.
     
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    Boring, boring, boring...

    I just proved that he bent over backwards to protect a war criminal.

    And you give me that, well, know what, you keep that, I can't be bothered.
     
  16. moon

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    Alexa, do you think that the UK should have a jewish leader at a time when neoZionism threatens to destroy the rule of international law with its terrible consequences ? At such a time , wouldn't a predominantly anti-Zionist leadership promote greater stability ?
     
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    David Milliband is not even the leader of the Labour party, of course, having been usurped by his younger brother (they now hate one another, real Cain & Abel stuff).

    Ed Milliband is just goofy, I mean, let's be honest, David Cameron and the Tories are soooo bad, that anyone with any gumption at all, would be ripping them to shreds, and have the next election, in the bag.

    Not Ed. He may be educated, I do not doubt that, and he may even be a better man than Cameron, but..he just looks and sounds..goofy, and debates as if it is the Student Union.

    That aside, I would have to ask two things.

    What % of the British electorate do you think are truly aware of this...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Friends_of_Israel According to the Channel 4 documentary "Dispatches – Inside Britain's Israel Lobby" around 80% of Conservative MPs are members of the CFI.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Friends_of_Israel

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrat_Friends_of_Israel

    2) How does that benefit the British majority?
     
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    I think that the people of the UK have the right to vote for whoever they wish and note that you too are indulging in stereotyping which is not related to reality and which indicates that you lump together all people of a particular ethnicity or race.

    As it happens the Millibands were not religious and more than that throughout their childhood they did not spend their social time among Jewish Groups learning to identify themselves with any particular Jewish identity. That is why both with you and with Jack it is the most obvious case of antisemitism/racism I have seen. The Millibands would I think be far more likely to fight attempts to coerce the Government of this issue than most and they would do it from a balanced viewpoint.
     
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    So what?
     
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    alexa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tck! clearly know you have been called - trying to take a snippet to change the subject ;)
     
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    Moon has assumed that jewish ethnicity should exclude someone from a political post. Imagine how she would be shreeking if one had said the same about muslims, which she would rightly call bigotry.
     
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    Jack beleives that Jews are a different race, possibly species. Yes you read that right. So don't expect a serious discussion in relation to anyone whom he perceives as being a jew.
     
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    You're way off track. I don't give a stuff about the ****** Millipedes personally- I'm simply asking you if an anti-Zionist leadership would be better at this point in time. It can be bloody jewish if you like, as long as long as it's not pro-Zionism.

    Incidentally, you should now apologise for your intended ' antisemitic ' slur.
     
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    Erm you used the term Jewish, so Alexa rightly called you on it. Furthermore leadership is determined democratically, correctly so. If most people vote for a pro-zionist goverment, then that is righlly so.
     
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    Crap. Alexa said that the Millipedes were jewish. It wasn't something which concerned me. Yet another bogus allegation of antisemitism designed to divert criticism.

    Let's see the UK population made aware of any pro-Zionist policies in their governmentt and then determine the leadership democratically. :mrgreen:
     

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