--10 Round Clip Maximum For Modified Assault Rifles--

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  1. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    What if a freaky looking dube wearing a blue sleaveless shirt, an American flag cape, and welding a couple of Japanese Martial Arts Sai went into a school and stabbed/clubbed to death a couple dozen helpless children and thier teachers, what legislation would suggest then?


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  2. Meta777

    Meta777 Moderator Staff Member

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    How many people die from bombs each year in the U.S.?
     
  3. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

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    So is murder.

    Ohhhhh snap.
     
  4. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What? School shootings aren't mass murder?

    The legality of the weapon is irrelevant. It was used, it proves it can be used, and that (*)(*)(*)(*) happened a long time ago. When guns were easier to get then they are now.
    To assume the rate would be 0 is foolish.

    I agree 100% with your last part of your statement. In fact, my guess is, the liberal teachers wouldn't want to carry a gun.
     
  5. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    You may have missed my point. There are already limits on what weapons citizens can have. I am not asking that guns become illegal only that there be sensible limits placed on weapons that might make it more difficult for crazed people to slaughter innocents. Those crazed people also include those considering altering our democratic republic through violence. One might argue that if a gun were not available that the Connecticut killer may have used a knife or a baseball bat.... I am not naïve enough think that we can stop all of these crimes, but I do hope we can make them use less efficient tools.
     
  6. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Have you ever considered this-

    There may come a day when America needs to call on it's citizens for defense. If that were to ever happen America may not be able to provide it's citizens weapons to do so. I'd imagine if it came down to this the country would be in a pretty bad state of affairs.

    What kind of weapon would you like to have? A both action rifle, or a gas powered high capacity rifle? Maybe you would rather hide, and not fight?
     
  7. Sirius Black

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    I just considered it and I think the odds are real, real long that a large clip or a semiautomatic weapon would change the tide of history. If that were a realistic point perhaps we had better hand out tanks, planes and yes atomic weapons to our citizenry. Lets deal with what is, not what might be. The victims here are not the people who would like to have a semiautomatic assault rifle with a large clip; they are a group of 6 and 7 year old American citizens. They should at least have had the chance to run away.
     
  8. tomfoo13ry

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    So, your solution is?
     
  9. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have often said when you are born they should give you a tank. If these kids had tanks, they might not be dead.
     
  10. Bowerbird

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    If any country ever managed to get past your military a few assault weapons won't help. What is also amazing me is that this post is coming from someone with the Tianamen incident as an avatar.

    If you are going to stop tanks - it does not require a rifle
     
  11. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They wouldn't hurt either.
     
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    You mean like Vietnam?
     
  13. Danneskjold

    Danneskjold Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You know there are plenty of unarmed people who stand in front of tanks and don't live.

    What happened there there was the Civilian had huge brass balls, the tank operator did not.

    Now, if that civilian had had a tank. Tianamen might not have happened. China, might be free.
     
  14. tomfoo13ry

    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Whatever happened to that guy anyway? "Disappeared", I would imagine?
     
  15. Danneskjold

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    Maybe he escaped -

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    Functionally the two rifles shown are identical. Both are semi-automatics using the same ammunition being fed from a magazine with the idential rate of fire. There isn't any difference except in appearance between the two rifles. One "looks scary" because it is similiar in appearance to a weapon the US military uses and the other doesn't look scary but they are fundamentally identical from an operational definition.

    Banning something because "it looks scary" is an absurd position that can't be supported by logical arguments.
     
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    Then why do progressives keep insisting on it? I thought they were the party of logic and enlightenment?
     
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    It would seem it's Liberals that keep insisting on it.
     
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    Which, like it's big brother is nothing more than a hopped up .22
     
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    Please show me in the Consitution where it puts limits on what firearms (this includes accessories) we can own.
     
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    Please don't tell me your that ignorant about firearms.
     
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    Did you ever hear of the 1991 Kileen Texas killings in the Luby's Cafeteria? Up until Virginia Tech, it was the gun incident that had killed the most people. And guess what? The shooter reloaded several times and still had ammunition remaining when he committed suicide. He used a Glock17 and a RugerP89; not an Assault rifle. But he had his victims trapped in the restaurant. NONE Of the potential victims had a gun with them. One woman who had a license to carry had left her gun in the car. Had any ONE of these people had a gun, while he was reloading....or had his back to them, they could have taken him out.

    So, you see....there is always going to be a case where it doesn't matter what kind of gun. The situations will always be different and these killers will always plan a way to get as many as they can.....regardless of what you ban or don't ban.

    We must get to the root of the problem. There's a lot of things we can do, I believe.....NOT related to banning guns or ammo.

    Having said that..... I DO, however, have no problem with stopping the manufacture of 100 round clips for Assault Rifles. That just makes it too easy. Keeping in mind....through my example above....that this won't really solve the problem.
     
  23. Meta777

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    There isn't one single thing we can do that's going to prevent every gun crime or every mass shooting death, because the circumstances are different each time.
    Its going to take a comprehensive approach to reduce the total number of victims overall, and even then, its unreasonable to assume that
    there will ever be a perfect set of solutions, but if we can reduce the number of victims, that is a step in the right direction,
    and for right now, it is a good thing that we are even able to have the conversation.

    -Meta
     
  24. woodystylez

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    I'm going to throw the Right wing a bone. They have proved that we cannot regulate the clip/magazine size of the Modified Assault rifle only. In actuallity I said that gun only because I didn't want to stomp on feet but it appears that they will cry no matter what.

    10 or 30 round Magazine size no matter what gun it is. Even pistols are holding up to 50 now. No selections of particular guns, only magazine size.

    The right wing dug their own grave when they started saying, "AR-15's shoot feathers and pixie dust. I could do as much damage with a kitchen knife. You don't know the difference between this bullet and the bullet that an Assault Rifle shoots therefore you don't know guns and you can't argue with me when WE ARE DISCUSSING THAT THEY ARE LETHAL" Simply pathetic.
     
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    Now you don't have to do advanced thinking right wingers. It's 30 or 10 round clip max. Choose kids.
     

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