Is this finally proof we're NOT causing global warming?

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  1. RichT2705

    RichT2705 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Ooops, another shot to the "consensus". Good thing people didn't bite on the bait as expected..one might feel really foolish looking at your carbon credits and expenses from such as the info keeps coming out.



    It's not panning out warmies.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...eated-medieval-times-human-CO2-emissions.html
     
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    Granny says, "Dat's right - it wharn't man-made back then, an' dem cows is doin' it now...
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    Dinosaur gases 'warmed the Earth'
    7 May 2012 - Giant dinosaurs could have warmed the planet with their flatulence, say researchers.
     
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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Granny says, "Dat's right we all gonna die o' thirst `cause o' dat global warmin'...
    :grandma:
    Global Warming Might Threaten Water Supply
    November 11, 2012 - Global warming over the next century could significantly reduce the amount of winter snowpack in mountainous areas in the northern hemisphere, according to a new study published in Nature Climate Change.
     
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    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    waltky Well-Known Member

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    Climate Change Threatens American Biodiversity...
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    Report: US Ecosystems More Stressed Than Ever
    December 21, 2012 - Natural ecosystems in the United States are under greater stress from climate change than at any previous time in human history, according to a new report.
     
  6. Dickjanes

    Dickjanes New Member Past Donor

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    wow, these people dont even need crack to be this stupid do they.
     
  7. Stagnant

    Stagnant Banned

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    A few problems.

    1. Daily Mail. Daily Mail. Trusting these guys to report correctly on climatology is like trusting Orly Taitz to report honestly on Barack Obama's birth certificate. They are utterly full of (*)(*)(*)(*). But what the hell, I'd credit you and double check that article for sources, but...
    2. Not available. The link you gave me offered a "The page you have requested does not exist or is no longer available." message.
    3. The fact that warming has occurred in the past without human influence does nothing to change the data we currently have with regards to global warming and man's influence on it.
     
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    The Daily Fail could not find it's collective backside if it was given a map and simple directions

    This explains why the link at the Daily Fail is broken

    http://climatecrocks.com/2012/03/28...record-straight-on-medieval-warming-research/
     
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    logical1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Consensus among leftwing climatoligist with an agenda is NOT science!!
     
  11. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Let's see.

    Flat earth At center of universe. Created 9 AM Oct 3, 4004 BC. Static biologically.

    Yep. Climatologists are engaged in a heinous global conspiracy.

    You can befoul your nest with utter impunity.


    Ideology trumps science as a potent projectile purgative every time.
     
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    The data we currently have show that during the current warming period there is some indication that the CO2 levels correlate with the warming but we don't know is the warming is responsible for the higher CO2 levels. We do know that during the little ice age w had all but no sun spots. We know that there is a spot on match with global temperatures and sun spot activity so I suspect that it is the mean old SUN that is warming the planet. Not my HEMI Dodge.
     
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    Trumanp Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You see, Climatologists aren't so simple minded, scientific method takes your hemi dodge into account, along with sun spots, and many other factors. If you read some of their work you'd see that they don't lay total blame on just CO2, but that CO2 emissions are a contributing factor, and that by limiting CO2 output, or finding ways to reclaim some of that C02, we may in fact be able to slow some of the warming, but we'll never be able to stop it.

    Logically, you have to add this into the equation. If you drink a can of coke every day, and just pile the cans in your basement forever, doesn't it logically mean at that some point you will fill it to capacity? Now what if every one in a family of 4 does it, wouldn't that speed it even more?

    The reality is that Fossil fuels are part of the end result of sequestration of carbon that was alive as plants millions of years ago, carbon that was in the atmosphere, and then captured and stored.

    We are now releasing that carbon with every car, coal power plant and any other fossil fuel based mechanism.

    Doesn't it make logical sense that by burning and releasing that much carbon that some kind of effect is sure to come about? To deny it is to blindly deny logic.

     
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    Yes, and this theory was sustained: the sun, and sunspots, have a large influence on our climate. Now... Here's the thing.

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    Oops.
     
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    Answer to global warming whether it's man-caused or not:

    Clean up the environment, but don't freak out about it.
     
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    Well what if it's worth freaking out about?
     
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    ragin cajun New Member

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    you keep posting that chart that proves nothing. 0.5 degree change is within the margin of error. its meaningless---unless you have an agenda
     
  18. ragin cajun

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    If it is, there is nothing we can do about it. Actually palm trees in greenland and peach orchards in alaska might be really nice.
     
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    That should work for even the most fanatical of pathological science deniers.

    Even their reality-dismissing dogma that insists you can spew millions of tonnes of industrial greenhouse gases into the atmosphere without effecting the atmosphere should allow for their kids having clean air when they're not blowing all that harmless cigarette smoke in their faces.
     
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    0.5°C is incredibly meaningful over the given time, should it be real (for reference: temperature increase of around 6°C over thousands of years contributed greatly to the largest mass extinction in the history of the planet), and please cite what you're talking about with reference to the "margin of error"?

    Yes, and the breadbasket of the world becoming a desert is totally a great thing.
     
  21. Dickjanes

    Dickjanes New Member Past Donor

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    dude, you should see the way they do sociology. but, global warming is a solid chunk of common sense. it's so obvious it rly doesn't need to waste money paying dickweeds to try and proove it to ya.
     
  22. Dickjanes

    Dickjanes New Member Past Donor

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    yaknow, you could have maybe picked a good point somewhere but, ya didn't.

    [video=youtube_share;vEOTwyJhvcc]http://youtu.be/vEOTwyJhvcc[/video]

    ^turns out we're on a flat object occupying bent space.^

    we've all but completely proven that this is the only place in our entire solor system that has anything with the ability to perceive consciousness. if a tree falls in the woods, does it make a noise? if you're rolling down a hill, is not the whole world revolving around you?

    so what you are is not an open minded and scientifically enlightened individual but a recreation and extrapolation of the exact type of idiocy you're shouting at others.

    [video=youtube_share;39K9SSyOxIY]http://youtu.be/39K9SSyOxIY[/video]
     
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    part two, note how incredibly old this is and the fact that you've obviously never heard about it before. interesting, no?

    [video=youtube_share;d6HxDG4h4bg]http://youtu.be/d6HxDG4h4bg[/video]
     
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    Everything you cited was a "scientific consensus" at one time, until SCINRTIFIC METHOD,ECPERIMENTATION and PROOF came about....same as AGW..."consensus" ...HAS NOT BEEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO PROVEN.
     
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    all you are saying here is that you don't understand anything about climate change, and are years behind in even knowing the popular denialist arguments.
     

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