Why are the BIBLE and Christianity ALWAYS Under Attack?!

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  1. Durandal

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    Christianity is certainly an insidious, mind-raping faith. The concept of the Holy Spirit is just one of those things which clinches the whole affair for the faithful, convincing them that whatever they're thinking is directly influenced by something other than their own brains.

    If for no other reason, I strongly dislike Christianity for its effective manipulation of people. With the help of the redacted "canonised" biblical texts, that faith was finely crafted to really capture the mind, heart and soul. It covers many bases, telling us that stupidity is a virtue over learning, that it's better to be "as a child," and so forth. Just... incredible work.
     
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    Why ask a question if you are already going to provide the answer for me?

    Here would be my answer to the question though.


    Christianity has been the major power block in the USA for a very long time. The majority powerblock also takes the brunt of the criticism. Simple as that.


    And lately, government has been tasked to be more secular in nature. Christianity is loosing power in this country. And of course, christians fight back.

    Christians do not want equality. They want to control the American discourse in both the social and political realms. They are slowly loosing that power though, and they resent it obviously. Make no mistake. Christians have no desire to share power in this country with atheists, muslims, indians, or anyone else.

    But since christianity is still the top power base in America, it takes the most criticism. Simple as that. And will continue to until something else takes its place as the majority power block.
     
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    I don't know of any Christians (including myself) who believe Christianity has manipulated anyone, for we all have a presence of free will in making our own decisions . Now I do know of current day liberals and atheists alike who have been manipulated by the idological underpinnings of a communist/socialist/atheistic/leftist/progressive ideology that has been responsible for the outright slaughter of upwards of 100 million Christians during the 20th century. Those jewish leaders of the Bolshevik Revolution with the ongoing help of Stalin were perhaps manipulated by SATAN himself when killing Christians enmasse.
     
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    Well, considering Jesus was entirely 100% human, that would make sense.
     
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    Jesus of the bible is 100% fabrication.
     
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    You know whaqt the words "true christian" mean to me? Repeat after me. "I am a religious snob who thinks i'm better than everyone else, and I have been chosen by god to rule over the heathens against their will"
     
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    Then why are children raised with Christian brainwashing? They have "Christian values" and biblical lessons drilled into them by zealous parents and clergy. People are manipulated into believing in Yahweh, Satan and Jesus.

    I mean, just look at you, referring to "SATAN" as though there were any reality and explanatory power to that concept..
     
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    Yep, 0% flesh & blood human being, most likely. History was questionable at best in those times, though with literacy came historians and some effort to distinguish real history from myth. In this, Jesus fails to survive the sniff test, his story surviving only in religious texts full of angels, demons and miracles.
     
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    Wow, out come the people that were somehow wronged in history class. Sorry you had some sort of trauma, but whether or not you like it, something significant happened 2013 years ago. Did you notice that the entire civilized world reset it's calendar on that date?
     
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    The Romans were very good record keepers. Yet we find no mention of this supposed jesus while he was supposedly alive in the their records. Even Josephus was born 3 years AFTER jc supposedly walked the Earth. I find it hard to believe Romans didn’t have one single record of this jc with all the miracles he supposedly did. In fact, there is no mention of jc till 15 years after his supposed death. That’s more than enough time to come up with a fairytale.

    Did you even look at the evidence for jc, or are you too afraid you will be too traumatized if you do?
     
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    Larf. I don't think I'll bother with this.
     
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    If Eagle Clark is concerned about history, he should look into how Roman censuses worked, and where and when they were conducted.

    The census of the Luke nativity story was more a plot device than a fact.
     
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    What's the matter. Facts supporting your theories hard to come by? As far as a census goes, why would you expect to find Jesus there anyways. I didn't think he was even a Roman citizen. Crucifixion was reserved for non-citizens.
     
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    Why do you post when you don't even make an effort to learn about what you're posting about? "The matter" is that I'm not going to make an effort to educate anyone who makes no effort to educate himself first.
     
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    It was the Romans who nailed Christ to the cross for goodness sake. Why would we need confirmation from the people who slew our LORD in order to realize HIS presence and magnificance in and for the world? I'll put my trust in what Christ's Apostles had to say about Jesus, thank you very much.
     
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    Well then, it should be easy for you to produce any and all records of this christ being tried and executed. I'll be waiting. :relax:
     
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    There are actually separate 4 books that describe this: Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John. If you want Roman books, good luck. Crucifixions were reserved for non-citizens. Jesus was not a Roman citizen, so there is almost no chance of that.
     
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    Got it, so you have no evidence to your assertion that some guy name jesus christ ever existed, tried or executed by Romans other than the bible. Got it.

    Stay tuned folks, in 2,000 years, Yoda will be the next messiah. After all, he was mentioned in 5 books, The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, Revenge Of The Sith, The Empire Strikes Back and The Return Of The Jedi.
     
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    So from listening from you, it sounds like you don't really believe stuff written down. (You remain partial to movies with Wookies.) All I can do is tell you that Constantine the Great converted to Christianity. As the Roman Emperor I can pretty much guarantee that he was better educated than both of us on the subject, and many others.

    I'm probably going to stick with his opinion, but if you can give me another witty Yoga quote that might push me over to the dark side...
     
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    Constantine the Great converted to Christianity, tells me what? He was born some 270 years after jc supposedly was. So if the President in the year 2350 made Jedi the official religion of America, does that make Yoda any more real?

    You don’t seem to get one simple fact, no where out side the bible is there any proof for jc the bible speaks of.
     
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    Argument from Authority logical fallacy alert.
     
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    Oh we believe! We believe the J Smith really did copy the gold books!
    He has sworn, signed witnesses.

    ( that is Yoda, not yoga)
     
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    That's like saying the Jews are right because they've been getting (*)(*)(*)(*) on throughout history.
     
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    I wasn't aware that the people of 2000 years ago kept records of who and when they executed someone. You think there is a record of how many dinasours were slayed by cavemen? Just sayin. Again, I'll rely on the good ole Bible to confirm the nailing of Christ to the cross.
     
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    You seriously think humans and dinosaurs lived at the same time?
     

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