Why the conservative hard on for the Pledge of Allegiance?

The Pledge was written by a socialist to promote nationalism.

Why do conservatives have such a hard on for the Pledge of Allegiance?

Shouldn't the government pledge allegiance to it's people?

Have they simply not thought the Pledge of Allegiance through?

 

Because it has the word "God" in it.

I personally have always had a problem with it.

 

I almost forgot.

But it doesn't say the Christian God, it could be Allah. Which is also the Christian God, but we will ignores that. LOL

 

Just referring to God is a blow to the secularized state. After all, religion of any kind is an obstacle to statists since some will place the authority of their God above that of the state. Case in point is the mark of the beast. What if, or when, the state does away with the currency and moves to a digital currency where people are forced into taking a microchip into their right hand of forehead? Those that oppose such measures will probably be regarded as religious zealots and unreasonable.

I think the collectivist/socialist agenda has changed. First was the goal of nationalism. This was to concentrate all power to the federal government and away from state government. Then once this was accomplished, the goal now is globalism in order to further centralize power. After all, the collectivist mindset is that the system cannot work properly unless the whole world is forced into it.

Ironically nationalism now stands in the way of such globalism and must be destroyed.

 

Religion is a means of a social control.

Religion is not an obstacle, it is a tool.

 

But for the statist, religion is nothing more than an obstacle, unless they can control it. That is why the Founding Fathers refused to set up a national church, like the one they left. In fact, it is not only useless, it is a threat. I believe that is why the church has been threatened to not speak out politically so as not to lose their tax exempt status. The state prefers that they just not challenge their power in any way.

 

The government influences the church.

The church influences the state.

Organized religion is a tool for societal control.

 

I don't say the Pledge because I don't believe in pledging loyalty to an inanimate object. I'll pledge loyalty to family and friends, tho.

 

I am actually looking forward to the next time the pledge is recited, as it will probably be at a firemen's association meeting, and I will be surrounded by conservative nationalist firefighters.

Fun. lol

 

Written by a socialist?

And there's nothing wrong with nationalism. It brings people together. It unites them behind a single cause despite their individual differences. Every time you cheer for your country in the Olympics, guess what you're doing.

The truth is that every other country practices nationalism. People only get mad about it when the U.S. does it. And we all know why. Let's not pretend it's anything other than power envy. Or player hating, if you like.

 

In a way it already does, right? But lotta good it does.

 

It can be used as such. But that doesn’t mean that is its only purpose. Any belief system can be used the same way. What do you think your buddy Maynard is doing when he puts out a record full of contrived vagueness layered over 11 minutes of a single droning guitar riff? He's doing the same thing on a much smaller scale. He's manipulating a certain group of people into thinking he's some kind of deep, enigmatic genius, and then he's laughing all the way to the bank with their loyalty.

"Shut up and buy my new record." - MJK

 

Yep.

You didn't know this? It is common knowledge.

No, it is silly when other countries do it as well.

 

The state is a religion. Nationalism is very much religious in nature.

 

I have never had a problem with it and didn't before the word God as put in it in 1954. What has been your problem with it???

 

Sorry, Allah is the Moon God, not Christ.

 

Sorry to dispel your ideas of church and state, but the 1st Amendment only mean the FEDERAL Government could not creat a State religion, some of the states continued with a state religion untill 1824, look it up.

 

you made me laugh out loud. The christian god is Allah?“If Allah has no Son by definition, Allah is not the God who revealed himself in the Son. How then can the use of Allah by Christians lead to anything but confusion …and worse?”
http://www.christianpost.com/news/i...an-god-allah-wrong-29015/#shHBAwSlQWVHFxid.99
you make no sense, i do not agree with the pledge of allegiance either and i consider myself a conservative.

 

Huh?...

 

I like its overall meaning; but I don't think it is fair that everyone cannot say it and mean it (due to the word "God", which was added to the original).

For Christians, I think it would be okay for them to keep the word in there; but those who don't believe should have something they can recite wholeheartedly as well.

 

I generally agree. And those who essentially 'weaponize' their religious beliefs... tend to end up controlling others.

 

Why do idiot liberals have such a hard on for all things anti-American? Why don't you losers move to Venezuela already?

 

Explain to us what we are supposed to be envious of. Nationalism as expressed in your pledge, your absurd displays of nationalist symbolism wherever you look (flags, eagles, protestations of exceptionalism and the rest), is nothing less than a carefullly orchestratred, cradle to grave, brainwashing exercise. Soviet Russia and Nazi Germany were prime exponents of nationalism writ large.

 

You nailed it Terry. If libs aren't bowing down to or kissing foreign dictator thugs life Hugo Chavez, then they're going on apology tours blaming America for the world's woes. Incredible sight to see, and yet they do this all the time with nary a shift in positioning of their smarmy two-faced countenances.

 

Yes, well when what America does both internally and externally stops affecting the globe negatively, America will stop being blamed. Quite simple really, even for a conservative. Deal?