Why Republicans Don’t Care What The Nation Thinks

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  1. Piscivorous

    Piscivorous New Member

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    Huge difference between Congressional elections and a union-bought-and-paid-for Presidential Santa Claus sleigh ride.
     
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    The problem is they want those tax rates, but not those spending policies.
     
  3. Plowkid1

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    i just had to mention, 48% said they would blame the GOP.... right, got that.... 37%would blame obama.... okay got that..... wait...that equals 85..... what happened to the other 15%. maybe post what % would blame the GOP. and then what % would blame the Democratic party. That would prove your point more. But i must say it sounds like if 48% blamed GOP 52% blame democrats. unless 15% dont play the blame game. please clarify.
     
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    15% dont know
     
  5. creation

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    Sorry Albert but thats balderdash, the left seeks equality of input, not outcome. Thereby a poor boy has the same educational and environmental opportunities as the rich boy. Perhaps you could explain what is so wrong about that?


    Indeed, because its policies are widely recognised as the right thing to do. Its not a take over, but a gradual process of recognition.

    Indeed, but for the most part your private plans are unaffected. And your family & friends are more protected than they ever have been.

    Immigration is an cross party lines issue as republican businessmen like having willing low wage workers.


    Yes he a social democrat, as are most Democrats and as are most Americans. Theyve supported social democracy for the past 50 plus years. Your different from the EU in only a few ways. And redistribution is a good thing. A very good thing.

    No rights are affected, none whatsoever.

    Environmental and financial regulation are vital elements in efficient running of markets. And they have no effect on overall livig standards which are a result of much much bigger forces.
     
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    I think it is hilarious that people fall for this Progressive/Socialist agenda. There is not much of a future for generations to come if we continue on the path they want to take. Republicans are trying to save us from that. I am glad I am older because the younger generation is screwed. We may be able to milk the hard earned prosperity the US has for a decade or two but it will give way sooner or later. These Progressives think they will make our society better when their type of policies are proven not to work. Sure, things may be OK for a while but sooner or later someone will need to pay the bill and it isn't going to be pretty. I don't feel so bad about it because the younger people seem to support this path and it is their future that is being pi$$ed away. I guess that is the real justice here.
     
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    People don't seem to understand. That since our govt. Is built on the principle of Majority Rules.:thumbsdown: (or as i'd like to say, Mob Law) Obama will point the finger but will not handle being pointed at. You make a Great point with replacing the leaders. except i would go as far to say as our system is corrupt, past the young leaders. I say we pay politicians the amount of a Garbage truck driver, And see how many stay. People, what do they do that is more important than running the Fundamentals of this country. This country was built on people that worked off their ***es. I will continue to work and do what i need to be a successful part of this country. But i cannot stand watching this country get ran into the ground.
     
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    I guess I see liberty and equality in terms of dollars and cents rather than 300-year old academic treatises. The more dollars you have the more liberty. Same with the opposite. I also think very few people in this country are looking for equality of outcome. Whatever their station in life, the entire middle class has been moved down a notch or two over the past 30 years, while the money folks have moved up three or four notches. It is not looking for equality of outcome for the middle class to demand a return to 30 years ago.

    As far as social justice is concerned, I believe Obama is trying to level the playing field brought on by the money folks tilting the field so that it is all downhill for them. He should be looking to lower that end of the field, which would have the same effect.
     
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    Soros troll agent286 post this liberal/progressive crap and thinks that the Republicans should ignore the people who voted for them because a lot of takers want more stuff for the producers.

    Soros doesn't seem to know that elected representatives of the people are supposed to represent the people who voted for them.
     
  10. Albert Di Salvo

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    OMG...look at what you've written. You've written that ideas don't matter. Sir, ideas are what primarily matter. The US was built around an idea. I'm not going to pursue this further with you because it is related to human consciousness and awareness.



    You are mixing concepts into a bastardized amalgam. This makes it difficult to discuss ideas with you.

    How can you possibly know that? That's nothing more than supposition.


    The middle class in America doesn't have much of a future because America has lost its comparative advantages in a globalized world. What advantages does America have?


    The past can never be restored. Don't you realize this? America's place in the world has changed. American hegemony is over. It was American hegemony that permitted the growth in the size of the American middle class.

    What you are suggesting is the equality of poverty.

    What a disappointing exchange!
     
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    rofl...............
     
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    Did some of you miss what happened on election night? THE AMERICAN PEOPLE REJECTED WHAT THE GOP IS SELLING. The national GOP, especially the House Republicans, seems to be on a mission of political suicide. I don't know how else to look at it. But continue on your merry way, insisting that you're right and insisting that you won and insisting that the public is secretly with you.
     
  13. Albert Di Salvo

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    Have you read the US Constitution? The House of Representatives is designed to answer to local interests. That's where the Republicans are strong. The Constitution allows a determined minority to stop what they believe to be wrong action. This is called the system of checks and balances.
     
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    Nah, they don't. Ideas are like opinions which are, of course, like ********s. Have you ever been around a neighborhood bar about 11PM after everybody's had their share of Newcastles? That's where you'll get your best ideas.

    I'm not trying to win debate points here. I'm just telling you that your liberty vs equality of outcome dichotomy ain't where it's at anymore.
     
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    That's what it USED to be called. When the Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling, thereby costing us cash and raising everyone's taxes, it's called plain ol' obstructionism.
     
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    Hard to compete with Santa Claus... Hello Obama's Banana Republic...
     
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    Republicans refuse to raise the debt ceiling thereby being an obstructionists to Democrats, who refuse to spend less... It's like a wife telling husband "I want a new mink coat, and husband telling her honey, I don't make this much money". I know, we need Liberals to keep Conservatives in check, but sometimes I wonder...
     
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    Can you explain why?
     
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    All perspective is relative.
     
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    LMAO...And yet he never fails to drive all the right-wingers apoplectic and cause brain farts to start popping out all over.
    Heck, if he was any more effective, you people would be extinct by now.
     
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    Should Republicans in the House do what is wrong just because the public wants them to?

    I don't think so.

    Robert Reich should stick to midget mud wrestling and leave the political stuff to others.

    I personally think the Republicans will cave BECAUSE Reich is a fool and does not know what he is taking about.

    The professional Republican politicians in Washington care deeply about public opinion and in the end will vote for higher taxes and no spending cuts that they know are wrong for America.
     
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    No doubt, no doubt. If he was any more effective, we'd already be a Banana Republic. Not that we're far from it.

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    Everything spent has been through the political process by Republicans and Democrats alike. Proposed, voted on, adopted, and funded. Refusing to raise the debt limit to pay for the spending is just a backdoor way of pissing on the democratic process. It ain't up to you to make the determination that Dems spend too much.
     
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    Can you give me one good reason why we, US of A, do not have a budget for G*d knows how long, and who's fault it is? Maybe, we do not need budget at all?
     
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    What's a budget?
     

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