Fiscal Cliff approches, Republicans proposes 25% increase in police spending

How is this in any way "fiscally conservative?"

In reaction to the slaying of 20 innocent children by the son of a gun nut, Republicans propose increasing the police head count of the nation by 25%! These are the same Republicans that blocked stimulus spending designed to maintain police head count during the Great Recession. We all remember how Camden, NJ and other municipalities were forced to slash police head count due to Republican intransigence. Now based on one irresponsible fantasy speech by a gun nut crack pot, LaPierre, they are reversing course and want to hire 100,000+ police officers.

I have watched thread after thread started that says what a great idea this is. Does anyone on the right have any idea how much A YEAR such a crazy proposal will cost? How can someone who so casually suggests we should add BILLIONS a year to the national debt for no proven benefit call themselves "fiscally conservative?" Who is going to pay for 100,000+ more police officers? You guys didn't even want to pay for the cops that were already patrolling high crime areas. Now you want to pay for a cop to sit on his butt in a quiet suburban school on the off chance once in 200 years someone crazy may come by?

I just want some level of consistency. Whenever common sense scientifically proven money savers such as universal access to the OCP are proposed you scream we can't afford it. But when unfunded wars and an insane increase in the government police force are proposed you think it is the greatest thing in the world.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/23/us/mixed-reaction-to-call-for-armed-guards-in-schools.html?_r=0

What is the plan "conservatives?" Why slash police funding one year and then a couple of years later propose a 25% increase in hiring? This is why you guys didn't win the White House. Americans want a steady hand on the rudder. The president supported maintaining our vital services such as police, nurses, and teachers during the Great Recession and he is opposed to a moronic 25% increase spending binge. Steady common sense stewardship is what this country needs. Someone ranting about our navy in 1917 and using it as a springboard for irrational spending is something the American people rejected. Keep crowing about a moronic 25% increase in police head count and they will reject you guys again.

 

"While about a third of public schools nationwide have armed guards on campus"

Cant read your own (*)(*)(*)(*)ing article can you?

 

Dumbasses can't read

 

No he is pretty intelligent. Doesnt mean he isnt trolling to his hearts content though.

 

A general comment. I trolled

 

That does not explain the request for a spending increase. Afterall, it is conventional Republican talking points that schools should be funded all locally.

 

Can't you read the (*)(*)(*)(*)ing part I bolded for idiots? Did you see the bolded private schools? Did you see the word "about" multiple times in the quote?

The bottom line is this is another unfunded multibillion dollar a year Republican mandate.

 

From the article you refuse to read...

That has been clearly demonstrated in this thread.

 

How about, as a conservative i don't believe they should add to police officers, Because police officers can be more corrupt than criminals. The only difference, they get away with it. Don't add to police, let teachers concealed carry. if one of the teachers at the shooting had a gun, just one. It could've been stopped. Lanza would've faced the same thing that SWAT or other forces encounter that can shut down a invasion. Surprise. Lanza must step through the doorway to get into a second room. After the first shots were fired(if it were me) i would've had my weapon drawn. Lanza does not know who could've had a gun and who didn't. This doesn't mean be irresponsible and give them to any teacher. Many teachers may not want to carry a gun. But i sure would like to. Given an opportunity to shut down Hitler would you have? Yes. Given an oppertunity to shut down hitler with a pair of scissors and a coffe mug wouldnt work very well though would it. The average draw and fire for a citizen with a ccw is 5 seconds. even if the teacher failed. They tried. The police officers dont need an increase. And i love how on your post you attack just conservatives. STOP. We are a group that doesn't want a radical change. Did the 2nd amendment say, You can have a firearm everywhere except a public school. or the street? no it said the right to keep and bear arms will NOT be INFRINGED:Act so as to limit or undermine (something); encroach on: "infringe on his privacy"..... WE HAVE INFRINGED ON THE SECOND AMENDEMENT. The day they said you cannot open or concealed carry a fire arm. The day a law was passed against guns it was infringed on. I will now refer you to my signature

 

I think this calls for a quote from Vin Suprynowicz, "Here is an easy test you can try at home, Ask the subject whether he favors organized prayer in public schools. If she says No she's a liberal, if he says yes, Hes a conservative. If he or she says, public schools? The constitution grants the government No power to run any mandatory tax funded youth Propaganda camps. You have your hands on a wily Libertarian(pg 2. Ballad of Carl Drega).

 

You offer no evidence that substantial numbers of police officers are "corrupt." Neither do you offer any evidence that a corrupt police officer is incapable of safely standing around a school with a gun. How would taking payoffs from the mob suddenly make someone incapable of safely handling a gun around minors? Last time I checked there were far more teachers being convicted of illegal sex acts with minors than police officers. I would much rather have a cop receiving payoffs from the mob standing outside my child's school than have some dirty old man inside my daughter. How about you?

There was an armed guard at Columbine. That didn't stop a thing.

There is no way you can cover over 130,000 schools with a volunteer teachers' rifle brigade.

You may be new around here but you are obviously a Godwin veteran. You went non sequitur pretty fast.

You seem adept at the strawman as well. You will make a fine addition to the conservative ranks of this forum. For the billionth time there has never been a federal prohibition on adequately trained personnel guarding schools and no one is proposing such a prohibition. Please read the opening post. It is merely a commentary on budgetary feasibility. Regardless of what the second amendment says if there is no money there is no money.

Well that is hardly a ringing endorsement of your flawed plan.

 

Aka you had no clue 1/3 of the schools already had guards. Your outrage is only because it was the NRA suggesting it.

 

Again not admitting you had no clue how many schools ALREADY have armed guards.

 

You do realize this is within the parameters of conservatism, do you not? The safety and protection of the citizens of this country is actually a Constitutionally derived function of the Federal Government. Whether that is solely the armed forces or a combination of the armed forces and active police forces is irrelevant.

 

Despite the fact that the NRA and LaPierre are just parroting the $120 billion Clinton gave the schools in 2000 on the anniversary of Columbine. They squeal like stuck pigs that LaPierre is a nutter for suggesting exactly what Clinton originally funded.

 

You obviously didn't read the what the president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police had to say...

I know you feel embarrassed. Just admit your mistake and move on. No one is going to hunt you down.

 

Irony.

http://articles.latimes.com/2000/apr/16/news/mn-20323

Thank you for this comedic interlude.

 

Nice. Moving the goal posts. I love the liberal mental disorder.

 

Republicans are finally agreeing with what Bill Clinton proposed.

You win, you get your way.

 

I'm not the one that posted that $120 billion figure and claimed it was for hiring cops to just stand around schools holding guns. So you just say whatever you want with no links or evidence and no one is allowed to question it? Is that how it works, Dear Leader?

 

Again you wont admit you had no clue. Please find me a single post where i support putting police in every school because you wont find one. I am just pointing out that police are ALREADY in MANY schools and there was NO OUTRAGE when they were installed nor when they were funded only when the NRA makes suggesting does the fake outrage begin.

 

Oh, changing your story, huh? Well I've been running around telling all you people that there is no federal prohibition on armed police officers in schools. So your claims about me are easily debunked.

The point is LaPierre hasn't offered up anything new. Most schools that want to can hire a cop. I've stated this numerous times on this forum. The vast majority of schools have looked at the option and decided against it. Your numbers also ignore all the private schools. You also ignore all the ancillary staff necessary to support that many new police officers flooding into the system.

Also how do you think such an initiative would be funded. Local governments have said they don't have the money. Is LaPierre such an idiot he didn't know that before he gave his big speech? Or did he, like a good little conservative, mean we should just charge it to the federal credit card? And what do you think will happen when the federal spigot is opened for the majority of the schools to get free police officers? You think schools that already have police officers are going to sit by quietly and not demand their share? How the hell is this stupid plan supposed to work on a national basis?

 

I am not "you people" i never claimed there was a law against police in the school. Keep changing the debate to hide the fact you were clueless about how many schools already had armed guards.

What is this about "my numbers".

 

Exactly. The number posted was a direct quote from Craig Steckler, president of the International Association of Chiefs of Police. I trust his numbers more than some guy ranting on the internet.

Anyway use whatever number makes you sleep at night. So how are you going to pay for this fantasy?

 

I quoted your article... And what do you not understand about me NOT supporting putting police into every school.
How many times do i have to repeat myself to get through your thick troll skull?