Should overweight people be forced to pay more for health care?

I agree with that completely> They always increase premiums on smokers, have for years. Obesity has been hiking health care costs for years. Why shouldn't they pay more?

 

If re-elected, I'll bet Obama places a tax on unhealthy foods. He will probably start with restaurants and fast food places.

 

The perpetrators of pyschological manipulation create desire in the human mind to do all sorts of behavior contrary to what his/her normal reasoning would initiate. They have accomplished this via the rise of technology in the visual arts, for lack of a better description. This could loosely be termed "the media". It is a powerful force, first used to induce mass mind control in the form of pagentry by the infamous A.Hitler. Now perfected beyond even the wildest imaginations of Audeus Huxley (Brave New World) and using some of the techiques in secret (interrogations), amazingly similar to the worst nightmare of George Orwells 1984.

This methodology is what corrupted the original form of capitalism. In the original construct, outlined in part by Adam Smith in Wealth of Nations, there was no such mind control apparatus as potent as we now experience in the modern information age. There were desires of course, but they were formed through gradual experience, over a long period of time. In other words, there was little expectation of immediate gratification. And there was little use of subliminal suggestion. This was before the Victorian age, and before Freudian psychology, even before psychology was a part of medical discipline.

Since this mass mind control methodology also requires some percentage of the population be induced to use mind altering substances, so as to divert their otherwise normal, instinctive reaction to their liberty being stolen, there requires a large industrial mass production of drug and alcohol to provide the supply. Thus, the enterprise requires such a level of expense, that the only logical probability is that it must be the upper 1% of the wealthest few, who have both the means and the motivation to want to corrupt the society in such a manner. In effect, their motivation is their own deviant desire for absolute power.

The first manifestation of this corruption, was the rise of Industrialism and the Victorian Age, accelerating to cause the 1st World War, and leading to the 2nd. How else, can one explain the willingness of so many of lesser education,to sacrifice themselves for an elite class of citizens, who had little, if any regard at all, for their existence or loss.

Now, if you have read this far, you must be asking, what possible reason for this diatribe, relative to whether overweight peoples should pay more for healthcare. The reason, dear reader, is that the answer is related to the conditions which caused the current situation. And those conditions were created by the corrupt class of humans who desire power over all things. Thus is was necessary to establish the context 1st, before answering the question.

And the answer is: NO! The overweight person should not have to pay one dime more than any other afflicted human should. The reason: Because the afflictions are related to the cause, which is the manipulation of desire through psychological conditioning, now enhanced by technology. And the method , means and financing for such a large operation, was and is, directly linked to the upper 1% of wealthest of the population.

THEREFORE, the upper 1%, who are responsible for the primary cause of psychological manipulation that creates unnatural and illogical desires in the human mind, should be required to PAY for the RESULT. In other words, the 1%, who have 7 Trillion dollars of GDP acquired in large part through such psychological maniputation, should pay the 1 Trillion necessary to provide universal healthcare for the other 99%.

 

I think the issues of overweight people should be a decision of the Insurance Company. A lot of overweight people have a condition, its extremely difficult to determine things like this. However...I do not think airlines should be forced to give 2 seats for the price of one if you are overweight like I heard many people are trying to turn into law.

 

American minds are easily controlled.

I am surprised so much effort needs to go into it.

 

Long lasting effects of weight-loss surgery...

Study: Health Benefits of Weight-Loss Surgery Last Years
October 10, 2012: Just 10 years ago, weight-loss surgery was new, and little was known about the long-term health effects of surgically shortening a patient's digestive tract. A recent study examined whether people can sustain their post-operative weight loss and if their risks for heart attack and diabetes remain low six years after their surgery.

 

The title should read, "Should insurance companies be forced to offer insurance to overweight people at the same cost as everyone else?"

The answer to that is no.

The answer to the question in the title is that no one should be forced to pay anything. No one should be forced to purchase health care.

 

ABSOLUTELY. on all counts. that would definetely give me incentive to lose extra 10 pounds. I lost 15 since last summet, but keep failing to go down to 170, which would be my ideal weight.
Let me ask you something: when you ship a package air freight, does it cost the same to ship 100 pounds as it costs 200 pounds? it is honestly from the bottom of my heard INSULTING to hear the BS from politicians and the protectionist groups who try to defend "the rights" or whatever they call.
great post!

 

Granny says the key word is slightly...

Being Slightly Overweight May Reduce Risk of Dying
January 02, 2013 - People who are slightly overweight or mildly obese have a lower risk of early death than normal weight individuals, according to a new analysis of nearly 100 international studies.

 

This won't be a problem with Obamacare. I predict it will be a Federal Offense to be overweight in the future because there is only so much health care available anyway. They'll probably lock you in a 'diet' facility until you are at the 'proper' weight per standard Government charts. Multiple offenders will probably be incarcerated and tube-fed.

 

To be fair, people who drink, smoke, exercise (injuries occur from exercising, so technically its self inflicted), practice unsafe sex or other un-natural acts should also be forced to pay a higher premium.

 

I say let the market decide. Insurance companies should be allowed to use whatever criteria they want in deciding insurance rates to maximize profit.

If fat people can find an insurance company that does not use fatness as a criteria, all these less healthy people will raise the costs of this insurance company and they will be forced to raise rates. This will drive the skinny people to other cheaper insurance companies.

 

I like it. imagine all the all you can eat busineses it will save from going out of business...

 

I'm not a doctor, but I think if I would be one, I would much rather work on a healthy but injured athlete, than on a 200+ pound whale

 

Well, seeing as 1 in 3 Americans are statistically either obese or grossly overweight, I'd say that all that extra cash might help your overburdened healthcare system. Obesity costs America nearly $150 billion annually in additional healthcare treatment.