Once capitalism takes over government, it becomes socialism.

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  1. peoplevsmedia

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    Only difference will be, that unlike in socialist nations, the people, the society will be completely left out. picture Philippines only much worse, and you will get an idea. if there is one thing that can save the nation and you within it, is love and understanding instead of hatered and ignorance. learn to get along with your fellow citizens, or else you will be facing them at gun point. the enemy of the nation is he who spreads hatered and does the finger pointing - most notably politicians on television.
     
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    some truth to that, but the most divisive force in the USA today is the president.
     
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    Only to racists. Obama is nothing more than a turd in a long line of turds. show me Obama's racist quote or action, and I will show you his predacessor took even more racist actions.
     
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    I know that the Philippines has had a troubled political past.

    However, the CIA world factbook says that the Philippines' economy is doing rather well. It avoided contraction from the 2008 downturn, and that countries' conditions are heading towards a favorable position that investors like to see in a developing nation.
     
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    If that's what American political leaders want to see America become, then good luck to them.
     
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    Disagree

    It should read "Once government takes over capitalism it becomes socialism.

    True capitalism and socialism are like oil and water. They do not freely mix.
    Its governments that try to force the two together.
     
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    Is it socialism or fascism? Either way it's (*)(*)(*)(*)ed.
     
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    Explain giant corporations like Verizon taking over internet which was invented under a socialist institution known as military, funded by society. why did government not keep it after inventing it? think of all the money they could have made charging about $50/month every single family to have the service? FAIL.
     
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    Mate, can you please elaborate on the title of the thread a bit? A title is meant to present a sample of the thread, not be the thread :p

    What do you mean by Capitalism taking over government? How exactly does it become Socialism as a result?

    This would be much appreciated.
     
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    you don't get it, part of obama's strategy is to divide and conquer, divide us by race, sex, ethnicity, location, age, income, sexual preference. When he gets the population divided up into tiny segments it becomes much easier to ram his marxism up our collective asses.
     
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    Verizon is not taking over the internet---------where do you get this crap?
     
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    I never said America has finished the mutation between Capitalism and Socialism. You'll have to grade yourself.

    Socialistic entities may have created a minor version of the www for means of waging war. Capitalism improved it for the entire world.
    Do you really believe its wrong for corporations to charge a lessor value for a product of greater value to the consumer?
     
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    Maybe this can explain:
     
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    Interesting how military voluntarily gave up that priviledge, I wonder if money/bribes were involved?
     
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    Are you accusing the great Al Gore of bribing the military???? ;)

    You left my question to you untouched. I would'nt ask it if I were'nt interested in your opinion.
     
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    What is this lessor value? when capitalism first took over internet from society, they charged about $5/month, now, 18 years or so later they are charging about $50/month every family that wants to stay connected. and politicians right AND left talk about taxes, as if that's the cause for the debt, not collecting enough, as if that's the only type of tax that exist on society. if you want my opinion on such services, I believe everyone should have the right to hook up internet and get it for free. tax payers initially funded satelites and everything else. if verizons and comcasts want to offer some protection plan in case the line breaks, that's another story.
     
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    Much more so than Obama is taking over America - in 4 years he will be done playing the leader.
     
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    Sure, we'd all like to pay $5 instead of $50.00. Thats not how life works under any system. If the US government still controlled the internet we'd live in a different world. A world of no consumer choices. One size fits all internet connections. Theres very little incentive for a government to improve its services. They are for all intents and purposes unaccountable to the society they rule. This country was'nt set up to run that way but it has transformed into such. Its the peoples fault for allowing it.
    Look at the malfeasence in government today. Think your internet would be better run by them?

    Free? Nothing is free. Where the silly notion that the work and acheivements of one man or company should be confiscated and given freely to all men came from I'm not sure.
    If you truly believe that simply because the government created the first internet connection that it should be free for everyone try this.
    You run a one man Restaurant, You did not invent Borscht therefor you must give it freely to all your customers. same goes for every recipe you did not specifically create.
    Good Luck with that business model. Happy New Year.
     
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    That is all 100% correct, and I agree, however, the other side is that big money should not be allowed to monopolize it for business either, example: my father had a red eye, all he needed was eye drops, so he went to the pharmacy, but he was told he needed to go to the doctor to get a prescription. so he went to the hospital, waited half a day, the doctor then measured his heart rate, his pulse, some other things. then finally gave him his prescription. he then went back to the pharmacy and paid something like $97 for a small bottle of eye drops that should not have cost any more than 50 cents. and then he was harassed for 10 years for the hospital bill which was $1,100. here is your hijacked American health care. end of this argument.
     
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    You know something, your correct, arguement over.
    One of my first basic tenants of discussion is NEVER disparage someone elses Father.
    Its OK that you brought it up, no problem, but I'm not gonna touch that one.
     
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    It could be anyone, it makes no difference. todays pharmaceutical industry may invent some medicine, but there is a lot of medicine that has already been invented centuries ago which is suppressed to create monopoly and jack up prices.
     
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    Crony capitalism definitely tends to overtake free market economics in most countries.
     
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    Not pertinent to the OP but, Verizon BLOWS. Good day..
     
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    I agree but can you explain why that is?
     
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    I won't entirely disagree with your comment. Perhaps not even slightly.
    The problem I had with your prior scenario is this. Your Father should have known not to trust the pharmacy/ beauracracy and should not have gone to the emergency room/ hospital room for a case of pink eye. Why did he leave his homeland if not because he had learned that lesson? I really can't put the blame on him. He was conditioned to do exactly what his superiors demanded. Its the socialist way.
    Some Benedryl and Vizine probably would have done a better job than whatever he was prescribed. About $25.00 over the counter.
    PS I'm not a docter and I've never heard of red eye as a medical condition. I could be full of ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
     

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