As A Proud African American Conservative

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by XYiftah, Jan 3, 2013.

  1. XYiftah

    XYiftah Banned

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    Well I do not like labels but you pretty much correct on the first part anyhow. White Liberals as toms? I do not know--Personally I think they are just misguided and took the wrong turn in life somehow.

    I often wonder what turns a person into a liberal. I have heard some people label it as a mental illness. I am not a psychiatrist so I don't know about that. Some people just have a hard time telling right from wrong.
     
  2. XYiftah

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    I particuarly admire Alan Keys. I think he would have made a great President.

    A very moral person and highly, highly intelligent. Obama tricked people into believing he was some kiinda genius. From my studies he has little better than a average intelligence.

    It appears without the media's help it is very difficult to be taken seriously in this society.

    Just look at all the republican candidates and the last one standing was probably one of the worst in so far as being electable. The media did in all the other candidates one by one. The republicans to their dis-credit went along with the media.

    Remember that trick they poulled on Gov. Perry of Texas--holding him accountable for a name of a place that happened long before he was born. That is how the media tricks the people.
     
  3. Albert Di Salvo

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    The line between us and them is based on class not race, but God help anyone who ends up on the wrong side of the line by mistake. Class and race have now converged. It is perfectly acceptable to hate one's political enemies and to wish them ill.
     
  4. XYiftah

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    This is the feeling I get when I talk to democrats. Like they could just could kill me because I do not go along with their shananigans. They and their media friends have tricked America. That is the truth. No doubt about that. Look at this>>>>>http://www.sodahead.com/united-states/common-tricks-the-media-uses-in-obfuscating-the-truth-about-
     
  5. Albert Di Salvo

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    I understand how the leftists feel. That's the way I feel about leftists. There is a subconscious desire to kill them.
     
  6. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What, exactly, are you proud of?

    Are you proud of:

    The stance "conservatives" took during the civil rights marches of the 60's?
    The stance "conservatives" took during the Vietnam war?
    Are you proud of the actions of the Reagan administration during the Iran-Contra mess?
    Are you proud of the debt generated by the Reagan-Bush years when they cut revenues and tripled defense spending?
    Are you proud of Karl Rove?
    Are you proud of Iraq?
    Are you proud of the bumbling mess "conservatives" made of Afghanistan?
    Are you proud of "borrow and spend" economic policies?
    Are you proud your fellow "conservatives in Congress?
    Are you proud of supporting NRA policies that lead to the mass murder of children?

    As a "conservative", what exactly do you have to be proud of?

    Or maybe you're just a tiny little troll with his arm elbow deep in crap just stirring away?
     
  7. XYiftah

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    Finally tired of the increasing unmanageability of the too rapidly thinning, African curled but interspersed with myriad straight strands evincing the peek-a-boo genetic inheritance of my American native and White Irish roots, and more than a few not so easily hidden anymore greys, not too long but not short enough hair, I made the pilgrimage that all men must invariably make to that hallowed hall of grooming known as the Barber Shop.

    Stepping inside, I entered the court of all too familiar sights, sounds, and smells. Alcohol and clipper oil mingling unevenly with the sounds of a too loud TV in a too small room; ancient swiveling chairs bought who knows when and for who knows how much; magazine pages crinkled with the handling and bending and perusing of too many hands flipping through pictures of cars and girls and sports teams; seats scavenged from some theater, the vinyl seats complaining with every shift of weight. This is the Barber Shop.

    And it is here that one can glean from simple silence, the social, cultural, and political mood of the waiting clientele. Of all places in America, the Barber Shop is the most segregated; separated not only by degree of kink or curl but by chasms of tradition and culture.

    Words spoken here are not softened for the ears of women or children or political correctness. Here is raw expression.

    So in I stepped and sat and listened, waiting my turn while CNN droned on and the “buzz buzz buzz” of the clippers continued, interrupted only by the occasional “click” as the barber changed the guard height.

    “Man, what you think about that man yellin’ out at the President?”

    “Aw man, he don’t know sh*t. They wasn’t doin’ all that when Bush was in there.”

    “Yeah, all them crackers out there protestin’. They don’t know what the hell they talkin’ about. Just mad that a Black man is in the White House. That’s all that sh*t is.”

    At this I sighed, daring not open my mouth to reveal that I too think the president is a liar and resentful that without saying it, I would be an ‘uncle Tom’ in their eyes. And so I sat, grinding my teeth silently, flipping the pages of an ancient Vibe magazine with Obama on the cover, listening to the entrepreneurial barbershop owner whose very life and business is the embodiment of conservative principles put to work.

    I wonder what he thinks about all the taxes he will have to pay to foot the bill for Obama’s government expansion. This barber owns two shops and several businesses, AND rental property. I wonder if he realizes he’s one of the “rich.”


    “Yeah, man. If you asked one of them crackers what was in the health bill they couldn’t even tell you. They just mad that’s all. Don’t even know what the hell they talkin’ about. Just mad that a n*gga in the White House.”

    “You right man. Look, when he got in there he told them it was gone cost some money to fix all the sh*t Bush messed up. Now they cryin’ about it.”

    “Obama just tryin’ to do something, and them d*mn crackers don’t like it.”

    “It’s just racism; pure and simple. That’s all.”

    “Yeah.”

    By now it was my turn to sit in the chair and get my cut.

    “Cut it low, but not tight.”

    “You want it faded?”

    “Naw, that’s alright.”

    I sat silently while the clippers buzzed. We talked about my family. My sister, my father, people the barber knew.

    “Is that good?” he asked, holding up the mirror for me to examine my new cut.

    “Yeah, its fine.”
     
  8. Ekeleferal

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    ---This puts the OP's observation into the proper context. Life is competition. It is helpful to acknowledge this essential fact, because competition is amoral. The OP has experienced nothing more than the opposition attempting to muster any leverage conceivable in order to morally, intellectually or spiritually arrest the further development of "conservative" ideals or, to spoil, eradicate and ultimately supplant those already embedded. Opposing tactics are, by the group, reviled regardless if the action is objectively ugly. Those actions described by the OP, happen to be ugly to a person like myself, not circumscribed by the "conservative" disposition, or that of "liberalism". It is amusing to spectate the outrage of the respective groups being lampooned in this thread.
     
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    I have a 5 year old daughter. She goes to a Christian school. She is taught to love other kids even if she doesn't like to play with some of them. She is taught to share her toys and help whoever needs it. I believe most healthy kids are raised this way. And somehow it's wrong if we don't grow up to be selfish and instead keep doing the things we are taught in much of our years as students?

    We are Asians we are hard working, have strong family values, protective of our children and don't complain much. We certainly aren't stupid, and most of us have liberal views (on the issues America talks about) because it's simply what makes sense.
     
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    Indeed. That's a big reason why Romney lost the election.
     
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    You mean your experiences with some of the people you're defining as liberal? I suggest a major element of selective examples and confirmation bias at play, as is usually the case when anyone accuses a generic group of some (usually negative) behaviour.

    I've absolutely no doubt some idiots will say the kind of things you're talking about and some of them could be defined as (or will even self identify as) liberal but that doesn't equate to "liberals do this".

    Yes, with exactly as much accuracy and honesty as your claims. The only difference is the labels used. It's also no better than saying black republicans are idiots.
     
  12. Unifier

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    Most of what you have described here is not liberal by the modern definition of liberalism.
     
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    The reasoning of a psychopathic mind.
     
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    Modern definition?

    You mean revisionist definition to suit the cognitive dissonance de jour.
     
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    I simply mean the current standing definition that revolves around big government statism, moral hypocrisy, and opposition to classical liberalism.
     
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    The man just said he had liberal views and he described his lifestyle. Then you have to go inserting your anti-liberal rant in. That's what I don't understand. You just can't be a person with part liberal views and part conservative like a normal human being, everyone feels the need to put you in one place or another so they can decide whether to agree or sneer at you.
     
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    Thanks for answering my questions and welcome to the forums.
     
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    People like attention
     
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    Or maybe he's sick of seeing what decades of liberalsim has done to the family unit in his community.
     
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    Does not answer the question.

    Claims to be a "proud conservative."

    I simply ask what about "conservatism" he is proud of.

    Would it be the attempt to deny the vote to millions of American citizens over the last two years?
    Would it be Medicare Part D and adding a trillion dollars to the deficit while shuffling that trillion dollars into the pockets of the big drug companies?
    Would it be the refusal to provide disaster assistance to hurricane Sandy victims?
    Would it be "rape is a gift from God?"

    I'm sure all of us who do not declare ourselves to be "proud conservatives" would like to know.
     
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    Good for you.
     
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    All bets are off now. Do your worst.
     
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    Look pal, he isn't going to answer any or all of your assumptions as he like I see that your premise on all assertions are totally off base. This is perhaps your own list of liberal talking points. You must be watching too much ed shultz or chris matthews in order to formulate a reasonable and factual basis for your nonsense.
     
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    I am sure that is right because what else could it be? Power of conviction? Integrity? Real beliefs based on true life experiences? No, black people crave attention! That has to be the only explanation. Your comment couldn't be construed as racist, could it? At least you are proving XYiftah's point more convincingly than he ever could.
     
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    Plus they are so desperate right about now they need every sick mind they can muster.

    :D
     

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