I am a stakeholder!

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Archer0915, Jan 4, 2013.

  1. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    He doesn't, nor does it matter. It's still no new wealth created, that's it. it's not about money, but wealth.
     
  2. Archer0915

    Archer0915 New Member

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    Tangible goods are the only way to generate true wealth. Commodities and the like.

    The massage is simply an exchange of money.
     
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    akphidelt2007 New Member Past Donor

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    The food being produced is wealth. So how was wealth "not" created when someone goes to a restaurant and asks them to create food and provides them with money for that food?
     
  4. Kurmugeon

    Kurmugeon Well-Known Member

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    Illegal Immigrants could be rendered into candles and soap! :smile:


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  5. Archer0915

    Archer0915 New Member

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    If the food is paid for by monies that came from a producer there is profit if the money comes from welfare it is neutral at most as the monies were tax revenue that will be paid by another person and the seller.
     
  6. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

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    I wouldn't agree with that. There are lots of non-tangible things that are valuable. I stand with my previous question. what's the difference between the chair and massage? both are clearly contribution to the market and thus wealth.
     
  7. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    the restaurant creates wealth of course, but not the welfare recipient. He only uses wealth created by some one else.
     
  8. Mr. Swedish Guy

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    if only!
     
  9. Archer0915

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    A chair requires wood which comes from the earth. This wood is cut down and then sent to a mill. After the mill it goes to a warehouse where it is sold. When the carpenter takes it to his shop he then makes the chair. Wealth was created and value added.

    So this chair can now be resold or kept. The Chair will be there to be sold again. It has value.

    Food can be seen in a similar fashion as it provides a producer fuel to produce and it is a necessity for life. Here the tangible asset would be the actual earth though.

    The massage is nothing more than an exchange of money. Wealth redistribution. You can net sell the massage and though it is similar to food it is not a commodity.
     
  10. peoplevsmedia

    peoplevsmedia Banned

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    I'm with you, as a property owner myself. but are you ready to fight for it?
     
  11. Archer0915

    Archer0915 New Member

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    Hell yes! I have reached a point where the future of my family is on the line. Fight now or submit later.
     
  12. Not The Guardian

    Not The Guardian Well-Known Member

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    Yes. We're all Americans, regardless of how much money we make.
     
  13. Archer0915

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    Americans yes but why should one who busts his ass pay for one who refuses? Why should the one who is as a child be treated as an adult?
     
  14. peoplevsmedia

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    ok, as a stake holder I'm with you. first thing we need to do is form a government that holds it's own elections, anything tied with establishment has to go. EVERYTHING. their politicians, their media, their glen becks and fat rush bimbaughs, EVERYTHING.
    edit: that does include THEIR MONEY. has to go. any movement based on collecting funds from their money is in the end a whore to the same establishment.
     
  15. Archer0915

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    Now if we can get 10m more on the boat we can get this ball rolling!
     

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