How not to handle a gun.

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  1. AceFrehley

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    I know if I lived in a country where the government feared it's citizens so much it had to disarm them I would be afraid. But then judging from those childish riots in London a year or so ago perhaps the UK government was right in disaming the average folks.

    Becasue you can own guns in the UK , however only the very rich and wealthy can afford them, other than criminals of course.
     
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    That's how you handle a pre-revolutionary war musket!! :love:
     
  4. AceFrehley

    AceFrehley New Member

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    So according to your logic, we are only entitled to have things that were invented when the Constitution was written. So where does that leave us with regards to birth control, abortions, other types of medicine, transportation, etc?

    The possibilities are endless.
     
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    Common sense and the gist of the issue.

    Why Squinty LaP and his abject grovelers are so insistent upon nuts who kill folks having guns must be based upon some deep-seated insecurity because it makes no sense whatsoever from a rational perspective.

    Guns are, for some people, a powerful fetish that saps reason, and any perceived threat to deprive them of their juju, however fanciful, is liable to occasion hysteria, as they lash out angrily and incoherently.
     
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    Well...You won't be feeling anything as an unarmed boob shot and killed like a dog by a murdering a$$hole that is armed.
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    I posed the question below on this thread and others, I've no takers so far............

    Some foreigners call us "Pathetic, frightened little Americans", but we just won't tolerate being stabbed, beaten in the streets and stripped of our possessions like they so obviously do with over 4 times the violent crime rate. Maybe they actually like it, they always did seem like a masochistic bunch to me.
     
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    Well..those unreasonable people have always existed in human society even before guns were invented. Today guns are ubiquitous in human society and the premise that we can get rid of them is foolish. Any sane person knows that criminals, murderers, rapists etc. will always be able to obtain a gun. The point of any gun-ban legislation is to disarm the REASONABLE people.

    In the most recent case, the 'hysteria' of the media and the gun-grabbing, power-grabbing liberal elite has been used to further subjugate and oppress The People.
     
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    Reminds me of a joke I heard: this little old lady carries a .38 special in her purse. She's got a 9mm semi-automatic in her nightstand. She's got a shotgun behind her couch in the living room. She's got a trained German Shepard for protection. Some pointy-headed liberal cretin finds out and asks the little old lady what she's afraid of. The little old lady says, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
     
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    And countries that limit gun ownership have a lot less number of murders from guns. Hopefully this chart will help you understand this better, since the topic of discussion is about guns;http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...ed-killings-than-any-other-developed-country/ By comparing more violent crimes with fewer guns, to more guns and more dead people probably isn't going to fly well with common sense people.
     
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    Great. So if we ban guns, we'll just have murders by stabbing and beating instead. What a relief.
     
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    Your daughter, if educated, could know the nutritional value of Brussels sprouts without ever having eaten them or knowing how to eat them.

    You don't know the first thing about logic or making a proper analogy...
     
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    It was mostly the cops who lobbied for it.
     
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    hehe ever hear about the blind men and the elephant. But lets all stop pretending this is about gun control or peoples safety.

    The Democrats know there is zero chance of passing any sort of gun control laws, they remember 1994. This is all about further dividing Americans against each other, rich vs poor , black vs white, black vs brown, gay against straight, Democrats against the GOP, urban vs rural. So lets just cut to the chase you want America to splinter into pieces so the Marxists can take over and dream that you wil be recognized as a genius and a true believer and they will grant you a small portion of the pie. Hate to break this to you but if you were a loser in HS and a loser in life nothing will change . The losers will still be losers and the multimillionaire Democrats and Republicans will still be multimillionaires. Only thing that will change is any chance of upward mobility will cease and the middle class will be extinct
     
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    The statistics still prove you end up with less dead people.
     
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    That's odd, I never see a trail of bodies at the Olympics. Can you explain the apparent flaw in your premise?

    [video=youtube;CJ-PZvFY98M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ-PZvFY98M[/video]

    [video=youtube;0h-RU2hzQxY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0h-RU2hzQxY[/video]
     
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    Deaths per 100,000 population:

    Accidents (unintentional injuries) 38.4
    Salmonella infections 26
    Nontransport accidents 25.7
    Whooping cough 15
    Drug-induced deaths 12.8
    Intentional self-harm (suicide) 12.0
    Motor Vehicle Accidents 11.8
    Alcohol-induced deaths 8.0
    Intentional self-harm (suicide) by discharge of firearms 6.1
    Assault (homicide) by discharge of firearms 3.7

    http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr60/nvsr60_03.pdf

    You are 7 times more likely to die of Salmonella from a bad piece of undercooked chicken than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 6.9 times more likely to die of an untentional accident like slip and fall than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 4 times more likely to die of Whooping Cough than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 3.5 times more likely to die of using drugs than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 3.2 times more likely to die of a Car Accident than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 2.2 times more likely to die of a drinking too much Alcohol than being killed by someone with a gun.

    You are 1.6 times more likely to die of killing YOURSELF intentionally with a gun than being killed by someone else with a gun.

    The U.S. has 3.7 gun deaths per 100,000 and 466 Violent Crimes per 100,000. The UK has 1.49 homicides per 100,000 and 2,034 Violent Crimes per 100,000. I am looking for an explanation why the Violent Crime rate in the UK is over 400% higher when they've all but banned guns? The correlation would be in the UK criminals need only pick on the elderly and weak without fear of the person mounting any kind of defense. As for the 466 gun deaths per 100,000 in the U.S. I wonder how many are from the innocent shooting their attackers.
     
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    No one but his momma cares if the bad guy gets shot dead.
     
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    Ehh.

    I agree that gun control is wrong and misguided, but I don't think this really means anything.

    I don't think knowledge of how to use a gun is necessary to advocate their control. That seems silly to me. Can we please make points that are substantive?
     
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    When you propose banning things it is usually beneficial to know at least a little something about the subject matter, if for no other reason than to avoid looking like a complete moron.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSPrHl_6bO4
     
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    No, but you should know enough about heroin that you don't write a bill banning aspirin.
     
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    I completely agree with your post, it makes me think that if they ever try and take the guns they will not be able to with the military, too many ordinary Americans. They could only take our guns with a foreign Army, which with all the illegal aliens, once made legal, with extremely high unemployment they will join the military in record numbers, than once the military is a majority Mexican, they could use the military against the civilians.
     
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    Dont put too much faith in the military.

    Soldiers are trained to follow orders.

    Particularly generals who got where they are by making the boss happy.
     
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    Ignorant nonsense. Firstly we were never 'disarmed' because we never had a culture of mass gun ownership in the first place, nor did we consider guns to be a necessary means of self-defense, because we don't live in a perpetual state of abject terror like paranoid Americans do. Secondly I can go out tomorrow and buy a reasonably priced 12-bore, or whatever, if I have the necessary license and have been vetted by the police. Shotgun ownership is not limited to the rich-and I am far from rich.http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk/category/Guns/
     
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    translation: once a serf, always a serf.
     

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