Would you rather have people drive drunk or stoned?

Discussion in 'Opinion POLLS' started by EileenWright, Jan 25, 2013.

?

Would you rather have people drive drunk or stoned?

  1. Drunk

    4 vote(s)
    10.8%
  2. Stoned

    33 vote(s)
    89.2%
  1. EileenWright

    EileenWright New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    And, NO, you can't have it both ways or neither!
     
  2. joyfulbunny

    joyfulbunny New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 21, 2013
    Messages:
    50
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    nothing, both have negative effects.
     
  3. EileenWright

    EileenWright New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Do you like lemonade, or take the bus?
     
  4. Wingless

    Wingless New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 13, 2010
    Messages:
    458
    Likes Received:
    18
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Stoned.
     
  5. Iolo

    Iolo Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 5, 2011
    Messages:
    8,759
    Likes Received:
    126
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Why not?
     
  6. Archer0915

    Archer0915 New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2011
    Messages:
    6,412
    Likes Received:
    128
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Nobody should drive while impaired. That means most drivers are just too (*)(*)(*)(*) stupid to drive.
     
  7. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 2, 2012
    Messages:
    151,273
    Likes Received:
    63,443
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I agree and that includes tired... or on prescription anti-anxiety\pain pills (just cause they are prescribed doesn't mean you can drive while on them)

    but I would take stoned over drunk any day


    .
     
  8. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,893
    Likes Received:
    4,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Yes we can. It's a stupid question creating a false dichotomy, I fear with the intent of suggesting that because cannabis "isn't as bad" as alcohol it can't have any of the same kind of restrictions applied to it.
     
  9. leftysergeant

    leftysergeant New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2012
    Messages:
    8,827
    Likes Received:
    60
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Weed does not usually stimulate excessive production of testosterone, nor are people as likely to become violent doing weed. That makes them less a threat than a drunk.
     
  10. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2012
    Messages:
    8,849
    Likes Received:
    1,415
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Neither. I have been in both situations (passenger not driver) and it isn't fun in the least. The only other thing that compares are idiots who talk out their cell phones while driving.......I think they are actually worse than drunk drivers or people who are high.
     
  11. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2012
    Messages:
    24,509
    Likes Received:
    7,250
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I have never driven with any alcohol in my system. Not even a slight amount. I drive stoned all the time. Not massively stoned, but enough to feel it. I never have any trouble driving in this state, it's not an uncoordinated sort of intoxication, at least not at that level.

    I find it absolutely rolling on the ground hilarious that people generally defend alcohol but denounce cannabis - if you contrast the two it's like alcohol is weed's evil cousin.
     
  12. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,893
    Likes Received:
    4,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You sound exactly like the arrogant idiots who say they can drive after a couple of drinks with no problem. Just because you don't perceive an impact on your driving doesn't mean that there isn't one (and indeed your inability to detect the effect could be part of the problem). The fact is that actual experiments have demonstrated that cannabis has a negative impact on driving ability. By driving while under the influence of cannabis you are putting your own life and the lives of others at risk.

    Being punched in the face isn't as bad as being shot in the face. Does that make it OK for me to punch you in the face?
     
  13. Mr. Swedish Guy

    Mr. Swedish Guy New Member

    Joined:
    Jun 3, 2012
    Messages:
    11,688
    Likes Received:
    87
    Trophy Points:
    0
    easy choice. Drinking isn't affecting you at all, it's at worst occupying one hand for a few seconds, and water is good for you. A stoned guy tho, would be badly maimed wouldn't he? stones are hard things, not good to drive while or after you've been stoned.
     
  14. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2012
    Messages:
    16,052
    Likes Received:
    7,577
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Stoned, hands down.

    I've driven both drunk and stoned, and both at the same time in my younger days. I'd prefer if people were stoned cold sober on the road, but if I had to choose, I'd rather other drivers be stoned. In my experience, stoned drivers just tend to go slow, but they are still in control of their vehicle, and no double vision, spins, or blackouts.

    EDIT: Just wanted to add that I'm assuming by "stoned", the OP means on pot.
     
  15. EileenWright

    EileenWright New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 19, 2013
    Messages:
    380
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    But, have you tried driving in Florida, man?
     
  16. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,574
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I drive better under the slight influence of alcohol but that's because I have amazing reflexes and I'm over cautious to begin with. Being stoned makes me too cautious to be safe. I think most people would probably drive better stoned. Then again I don't so that's my guess. Not saying I drive well when I've had 18 shots. But I'd rather drive having drank 6 beers than having smoked 2 bowls of weed.
     
  17. happy fun dude

    happy fun dude New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 7, 2010
    Messages:
    10,501
    Likes Received:
    68
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Drunk would be better if you're at or around the legal limit, say .1 BAC or maybe even a bit higher. Much higher than that if being compared to those first few times you get stoned in which you get REALLY stoned.

    In that case, your attention can stray too easily.. You'll be staring out the side window looking at the hills rolling by or buildings rolling by mesmerized, then suddenly realize thirty seconds later, "Oh (*)(*)(*)(*) I'm supposed to be driving!" Provided you haven't crashed.

    If you're used to being stoned though, your driving may not be impaired too much..

    Drunk way past the legal limit or higher would then be, by far, the worst choice. Everything you need is gone. You have no coordination, no reflexes/reaction, your judgement (can I make this traffic light) etc. ALL go out the window and this is extremely dangerous.
     
  18. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,893
    Likes Received:
    4,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I'm sorry but that's absolute rubbish, and dangerous rubbish at that. All serious studies and scientific evidence tells us that alcohol will have a negative impact on driving ability. Small amounts might have a small impact but nobody is going to drive better because of alcohol.

    You might think you're driving better when you've had a drink but unless that is being independently tested, how would you know you're right?
     
  19. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,574
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You don't know me, so to say that something I know from personal experience is absolute rubbish is, in fact, absolute rubbish. It might be different for you, but this is the way it is for me. I know for a fact I am cautious to a fault when I drive and weed makes it worse, I also know that a small amount of alcohol makes me a little less cautious but not to the point where I am willing to take dangerous risks. I'm sorry you can't handle your liquor or the truth, but this is not my problem. There is a reason you can drive having drank some. I'd personally prefer that people drive in whatever state makes them the best driver they can be, whatever that state is.
     
  20. HonestJoe

    HonestJoe Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Oct 28, 2010
    Messages:
    14,893
    Likes Received:
    4,871
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I wasn't talking about me, I was talking about the general results of repeated scientific experiments. Your own perception of your driving ability, especially if you've had a drink, isn't reliable so unless you've taken part in some specific independent testing, there is no reason to assume that you're somehow different to everyone who has been and drive better under the influence of alcohol.
     
  21. PropagandaMachine

    PropagandaMachine New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 20, 2012
    Messages:
    1,574
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I know. I can read.
    I'm not talking about the chemical reaction that occurs in the brain, I'm talking about my experience. Like I said, I can handle my liquor better than weed, that you can't or that most people can't, that isn't my problem. By the way, there are different tolerances, there is what your body can handle and how it reacts and then there is how well you can cope with what is happening to your body and still maintain normal behavior. Personally, I drive better having drank 5 beers than having smoked a bowl of weed. You can research all the scientific experiments you want, but this I know from experience is a fact. You can keep acting like you're the expert on this even though you're not, and that you know exactly how I react to things without knowing me, but if you're using test results to tell you whats going on its hypocritical of you to try to tell me what I'm like without actually conducting tests on me and since you haven't I can tell you for a fact that you're wrong.
     
  22. Wolverine

    Wolverine New Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Mar 22, 2006
    Messages:
    16,105
    Likes Received:
    234
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Stoned. People just drive slow.
     
  23. Complex Blonde

    Complex Blonde New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 7, 2013
    Messages:
    35
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Neither,and while your at it come up with but one law when it come to the definition "of"
    DUI
    DWI???

    And make the fines excessively harsh,I mean brutal

    And make the jail terms without pause if your in a wreck(especially if you kill someone),I for the life of me cant understand how courts dont see when a person who is DUI,gets in a wreck and kills someone,how is that not Murder?
     
  24. JoeSixpack

    JoeSixpack New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2012
    Messages:
    10,940
    Likes Received:
    72
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Too many variables in this one. At what level of drunk or stoned is being considered. The legal limit for drunk is a joke, you can drink a beer and be above the legal limit in most cases. Then there is the difference in who is doing the drinking. If you weight 120 lbs and down a six pack in an hour, you are in all practical thinking probably too drunk to be driving anything. But if you are 250 lbs and down a six pack, you probably could make it home and still be competent and maneuver a vehicle with relative ease, while obeying all traffic laws.

    Pot especially treats most people differently. Some people take a couple hits and pass out or lose most of their inhibitions, while other people can smoke an entire joint and play a complex musical instrument for hours on end without making any mistakes.

    So it's hard to say one way or the other, without knowing who the drunk/stoner is that we are going to have to be dealing with.

    In any case all the general studies done as a reputable scientific study, all seem to indicate that stoners are much more safe when driving than a drunk of any kind. Drunks take way too many chances, and stoners are for the most part paranoid to begin with so they are at least attempting for the most part to maintain.

    So it is a bit more complicated than one or the other. But if I had to choose between a drunk Lindsey Lohan and a stoned Willie Nelson to get me to a hospital in an emergency, in a life or death no other choice situation, I'm riding with Willie. And if I have a choice between the characters in the Cheech and Chong movies or Dean Martin in the 50's-60's, it's Deano get me to the doctor.
     
  25. dudeman

    dudeman New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2006
    Messages:
    3,249
    Likes Received:
    44
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Agree with J6P. Experiments involving reaction time have been confirmed as a function of blood alcohol content. There are reasonable estimates to the deterioration of driving skills as a function of alcohol concentration. Little or no data is available to compare to the effects of marijuana or other drugs.
     

Share This Page