Israeli Air Force Attack Syria

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  1. Jack Napier

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    Sure.

    The one thing we can count on from you, is no bias against 'Paki's' etc..:roll:
     
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    Never say never.

    Who could have imagined (in the 50s) that poor broken China could become the world power?
    Some experts believe that sooner or later China will f even as mighty country as US. But it is just off topic like your lyrical digression about the disintegration of the USSR, & international train.

    Surely, Iran and North Korea cannot become the strong player like China but they can develop their nuclear potential. And if western hawks decide that it is a good idea to f any rogue state and the small victorious war can help to solve their internal problems – there is a possibility that this rogue state strikes back.
     
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    You think that the main purpose of the international law is to regulate how countries can f each other or you just like bdsm?
     
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    Sure. That must be it. It is certainly what woke me up, on the Jew hating side of the bed. One day, there I was, paying no mind to Jews that go quietly about their business, never robbing, cheating, lying, and being traitors OF course, none of those things could possibly be reasons, I mean, the Jews are innocent of all crimes. Ever. As they have always been. Even when Jews do commit crime, it is only due to 'anti semitism' FORCING THEM to be that way...

    :roll:
     
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    I question your "valid conspiracy" - I see the various CTs being born of paranoid minds, which are sadly common enough among the populace and exacerbated at least a bit by the poor education you've mentioned. So, if there is in fact a "valid conspiracy" here, I think it must lie in the purposeful dumbing down of America. However, I expect that this is not the case either. I just see government failing to govern effectively, which happens often enough. Public education is tending toward meeting lowest-common-denominator standards, and private education is tending toward specialized training in various fields.. People are tending away from critical thinking and erudition, opting instead for quick training for the quick buck (it's what pays, after all).

    Anyway, I think you will want to be careful of viewing life around you as "scripted" and such. Life is like a Ouija board, in that many individuals contribute often unconsciously to greater trends. It's a big, complex world out there. No one could actually hope to control it.
     
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    No thanks. But you feel free to keep on doing so.

    :thumbsup:
     
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    This guy discovered a weapon of mass destruction in another oil-rich area?

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    This guy discovered a weapon of mass destruction in another oil-rich area?

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    This guy discovered a weapon of mass destruction in another oil-rich area?

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    This guy discovered a weapon of mass destruction in another oil-rich area?

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    At your service Jeannette. If you have any questions don’t hesitate to contact me.
     
  8. Durandal

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    Question: Why target "Jews" as a group when certain Jews commit crimes of various sorts? Every kind of person you can name will engage in criminal activity. There is no crime-free group of people..
     
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    Yeah.

    It's fine. I spotted your love affair with Israel, from the get go, Mr 'Swedish' guy.

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    Such a charming mind.
     
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    Fair question, to which I will give my fairest possible answer. Naturally, on an indivdual basis, you cannot blame every single Jew, of course not. There are good Jews, I could name about six, well known, from the top of my head. However, as a collective, that is a different matter. Now, there is no use us not looking at them as a collective, since they are the one's that always self identify as one. Once upon a time, I had no interest in any of this. I knew nothing about Jews at all, other than (I thought), they were just another religion. If anything, I probably began from the usual empathetic view of them. Sadly, as I did get interested in the World about me, and as I did start taking an interest, as I read of the truly horrific things that they have done, and still do, as I listened to their own words...at that point..I realised they stood for everything I stand against. Israel is merely the Jewish nature distilled.

    I am sick of their never ending lies, their never ending sob stories of persecution, of them conspiring to undermine nations, cause wars, steal national wealth.

    Basically, I agree with what Truman left in his diary.
     
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    Probably the same people who entertained the far out digression that Maoist China might become capitalist in everything but name. China wont become "the world power" without political reform completing the metamorphis. People forget the other side of the coin, the benefits to the West of cheap products. Yes, but so what, its not progressive for Iran and North Korea to do so. There's always a chance that a rogue state or a terrorist group will get their hands on WMD and cause a calamity irrespective of any retaliatory motive but in the larger prospective it wont make a difference.
     
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    You have some good points here. It's true that they band together and stand as one pretty often, though they also have their divisions (not all are Zionists, for instance). I would prefer to narrow the blame down a bit at least, because Jews are not 100% coherent in their views or actions. First go after those who commit wrongs, and if others wish to defend those wrongs, then worry about them as well. I just don't like this Jew! BLARGH!! bigotry I see coming from many. It's the kind of thinking that leads to persecution of innocents.
     
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    Yes, of course there are divisions, or it may be more accurate to actually say, that there are certain types of 'Jew', who, for political gain, or territorial, or financial, or all three, have literally conspired to cause the deaths, one way or another, of other Jews.

    They usually tend to sacrifice those that are not v well off, or v well connected. Or maybe those who, at the birth of Zionism 100yrs or so ago, did not want this strange and alien concept, called 'Zionism'. Make no error, Jews have killed other Jews, or created the conditions in which they knew death would surely follow.
     
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    They just make a capitalism under the direct leadership of the communist party of China.

    As regards your statement “there’s always a chance that a rogue state or a terrorist group will get their hands on WMD” - I think the govt of rogue states realize that only nuclear weapons can guarantee truly that the “big bro” don’t screw them as hard as he screwed those basts Saddam and Gaddaffi. And they will develop their nuclear potential.

    Btw there are a lot of other bad guys such a Saudi Arabia in this area. Why US and entourage won’t send the democrats in combat gears to this as$-hole? Maybe, because the Saudis is just your “son of a b^tch” © ?
     
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    EXACTLY!!!!
    The UN Charter and other International Laws, carefully crafted over a century to try to prevent anarchy and chaos of medieval style, do not permit countries from attacking their neighbours just to stop them from becoming better armed. NOWHERE!!

    Except in the case of the Zionist state where for the Western media, a certain persuasion of posters on this forum, and the Sheriff of Washington these protocols seem to have escaped them.
     
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    If Israel does not want these sorts of mushrooms to grow adjacent to her borders, then what is the best solution? STOP INVADING YOUR NEIGHBOURS. Her first strikes over more than 50 years cannot be blamed on those neighbours. That has been proved over and over again on this forum.

    # Recently it was the breaking of a functioning ceasefire in 2008 by Israel that triggered the Operation Cast Lead slaughter by her
    # Only last year it was her assassination of three Hamas leaders that lead to the barrage of rocket attacks from Gaza. And the lame-brain Sheriff of Washington calls Israel's subsequent retaliations her "right to defence"
    # Add those to Palestine - 1946; the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948; Egypt - 1954; to Suez - 1956; to Syria 1964-1967; to Jordan - 1966; to Egypt -1967; to Lebanon - 1987; her reneging on a deal with Lebanon in 2006

    And now, in 2013, we can add another utterly illegal violation by Israel of the UN Charter by invasion of a sovereign country, all to preserve her military superiority so that she could violate airspace and continue the succession of illegal invasions.

    And Washington closes its eyes, opens its mouth, and swallows.

    Isaiah 44:18
     
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    You love all words that devour, O deceitful tongue. Psalm 52:4.

    How do today’s Jewish people compare with today’s rIslamc’s that are fond blowing innocents to bits, or the brave devout rMuslim that finds great joy in beheading schoolgirls?

    Lastly;

    I am bracing myself...(for the answer that I already know)... do you two deny the Holocaust happened?

    reva
     
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    Oh dear. Once again, when an Israeli Governments actions are in question, or critisised, the Holocaust card is played.

    The rest of the civilised world has reached a point of saturation i'm afraid.

    Explain to me Reva how the two posts you quoted lead you to assume that their owners deny the Holocaust?

    I find this overly common use of manipulative, calculating diversion tactics insulting and obscene. It used to be successive Israeli Administrations most unique and powerful weapon against critisism and enabled its governments to carry out atrocities with no consequence. It is now extremely tired and intellectually impotent, yet still it persists.

    Face up to the fact that thinking people will always question acts for which others should be, but are not accountable and no amount of historical suffering excuses this.

    Emotional blackmail and political correctness cannot continue to be used for purposes of political, or moral expedience.
     
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    Nothing of the sort has been ‘proven’ on this forum! In fact the only thing that usually gets proven on any internet forum is just that we can argue and hate each other.
    Do sources for those claims exist ? They sound kind of embellished, lol! Btw, I do not blame you or most of the usual suspects for being deluded into believing the rIslamic/rArabic global propaganda which is some of the best I have seen. Only the communist propaganda of the Vietnam era exceeded the PalMythicalNation propaganda in terms of succeeding in fooling the world by creating a PC popular movement that dependent on youth, left wing, naivety and sadly ignorance. Some of the qualities listed above are evident in your ‘UN-SOURCED’ claims (above and in the reply).

    Maybe the FACTS about Operation Cast Lead will dispel the propaganda you have been instilled with either by self or by brainwashing by covert methods, those facts place the blame where it belongs; directly in the lap of the rIslamic terrorists (Hamas) ;

    Sept. 24, 2005
    Within weeks of Israel's full withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, Hamas fires a large barrage of rockets from that territory into Israel, injuring 5 Israelis. According to the New York Times, "Hamas carried out the attacks after falsely claiming that Israel was responsible for the explosion of its weaponry during a march in Gaza on Sept. 23 ...." Israel retaliates with airstrikes, and Palestinian groups continue to fire rockets into Israeli towns.

    October-December 2005
    In the final three months of 2005, 145 rockets and mortars fired from Gaza strike Israel.

    January 2006
    Hamas trounces the more pragmatic Fatah party in Palestinian parliamentary elections.

    June 25, 2006
    Hamas gunmen infiltrate Israel from the Gaza Strip, killing two Israeli soldiers and kidnapping a third. Israel retaliates by launching Operation Summer Rains, meant to secure the release of the captured soldier, Gilad Shalit.

    November 2006
    Operation Summer Rains ends with Gilad Shalit still held in Gaza.

    2006 – An estimated 861 rockets and 57 mortar shells fired from Gaza strike Israel.

    June 2007
    Hamas forces violently crush Palestinian troops loyal to Abbas, take full control of the Gaza Strip.

    2007 – An estimated 896 rockets and 740 mortar shells fired from Gaza strike Israel.

    Source; http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=20&x_article=1581

    That is the facts Jack (and klipkap)

    I previously commented on that. Maybe you should re read my reply and rebutt with um...facts? Sourced facts???

    Do not forget when typing etc your rebuttal Israel is a sovereign country a nation that has a history andhas legal proof of her sovereign nation status. In contrast to the Pals which are a are a mythical creation. Even her own guerrilla fighters do not believe she exists! (see my post where I pasted a quote by a Jordanian freedom fighter that tells the world they were duped into being magically transformed to pals overnight!). Truth; Palestine is not and never has been a nation. Not quite the news Pal apologists are used to ingesting eh? No they are told Palestine was and is a nation. Yum, Yum don’t that cow poo propaganda taste good? I am astonished that anyone could believe the lies about the mythical nation of an Arab Palestine.

    No, Washington does the bidding of the American voter which are three quarters (+ or - few points) Christian, 82% support Israel. You figure out the rest.

    To close, according to my math and religion around oh 200 million Americans are Christian VOTERS, and being the body ie the hands of Jesus (ie God) we manifest his will on earth as described in scripture. Gods will gives Israel its power via the USAs power, which in reality was given to the USA by God. Probably the main reason the USA exists in its superpower state is to protect Israel. That is the truth; hey the rev would not lead you or anyone astray!

    reva
     
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    You know what to do with your 'holocost' BS, right?
     

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    'Camera'? You're using a Zionist propaganda source founded and run by Jews, and expect people to accept it as factual and impartial? I'm surprised you can't hear me laughing...
    Now, you say you wanted evidence of Israel breaking the 2008 cease-fire. Ok, here's the source, Mark Regev, Israel's government spokesman admitting that very fact. ('Camera', by the way, doesn't deal in facts; it deals in pro-Israeli and anti-Muslim propaganda).
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SILJxPTqjAM
     
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    advice: stop sitting with monkeys

    I bet you 2 argue with each other, often!
     
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    It is obscene. Gross. And a manifestation of the very essence of what I speak of - their lies, their manipulations, their attempts at psychological + emotive driven BS.

    Made all the worse by their own evil, which, if it were all laid out for you, would show you that it is THEY who perform 'shoah's', on others, directly or otherwise. It is they, the 'synagogue of satan', who have accounted for the murder, the torture, the internment, mutilation, sexual abuse, of literally hundreds of millions of people, in the last century alone.

    Let me take you back to 1991 (a significant date, for more than I am about to mention, as well).

    From Feb 24th to Feb 28th, an aeriel bombardment is actioned against Iraqi's. 100 savage hours, to be precise.

    On the Feb 28th, a massive war crime occurs. The crime? The slaughter of 150,000 Iraqi troops, by way of fuel air bombs.

    They are FLEEING on a crowded highway, from Kuwait to Basra. George Bush (snr), orders US military aircraft and ground troops to kill all these surrendering troops. Their bodies are then bulldozed into umarked graves in the desert.

    Bush then orders a cessatioon of hostilities. What was the significance of this slaughter, and Bush declaring war over on this day?

    It is the 'Day of Purim', it fell on that date. This is the day Jews celebrate their victory over Ancient Babylon, now based within the borders of Iraq, and a day in which Jews are encouaged to get bloody revenge(sic), against all their enemies, which Purim declares are bascially all non Jews.

    Of approx 697,000 US servicemen deployed to the Persian Gulf, 40,0000 die, and a further 400,000 end up suffering from various maladies, associated with what you may know as 'Gulf War Syndrome'.

    This is all just awful, right? I mean, how can it get any more grotesue than this? It does.

    It is later discovered that the military obtained 800,000 chemical and biological protective suits from a company called Isratex.

    They are defective. The suits have holes and tears in them that can allow sufficient chemical or biological material to kill the person(or harm), the person wearing it.

    Isratex, which had netted $44million in defence contracts in the late 80's and early 90's to make these suits, declares bankruptcy in 1995.

    How did the US judicial system deal with the principals of Isratex? I will tell you now.

    Abe Brin (a Jew of course), was the President of the company. Four months detention. Three years supervised released. And a $4000 fine.

    His brother, Yedudah Yoav Brin (who went on the run until captured at JFK airport), he gets six months + one day, two years supervised, and a $40k fine. Zvi Rosenthal, the production manager, he has to serve six months home detention, three months probabation, and a $20k fine.

    The real reason for this 'war' is revealed in Victor Ostrovsky's book - 'The Other Side of Deception'. In this he states (page 315),

    'What the Mossad really feared was that Iraq's gigantic army, which had survived the Iran-Iraq war and was being supplied by the West and financed by Saudi Arabia, would fall into the hands of a leader who might be more palatable to the West and still be a threat to Israel. '


    http://www.sott.net/signs/editorials/signs20060310_FalseNewsMoreDamagingThanNoNewsAtAll.php

    Federal prosecutors in Brooklyn said the company, Isratex Inc., rigged inspections to make Defense Department inspectors think they were examining random samples of new clothing when they were actually seeing the same small batch of properly made goods over and over

    http://www.nytimes.com/1998/10/07/n...with-selling-faulty-uniforms-to-pentagon.html
     
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    You see.

    Once again, they use a well known lying Jew source to validate Jew lies.

    It is all they have, lies, and a black heart.
     
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