L. A. Manhunt: Update (He could become a Hero!)

It takes a brownie to know how dangerous other brownies are.

 

It takes a court case.

 

Those "brown" people are the only ones we're at war with right now, though we do seem to have some drone use taking place within our own borders now as well, even if it's just for surveillance at the moment. The police state grows. It's not racist. If we end up returning to hostilities with N. Korea, for instance, I've no doubt that if drones can be of use there, and I don't see why they shouldn't, then they'll be put to use there as well. Would that make us racist against Asians as well?

 

You keep missing what I'm saying.. I'm saying the INNOCENT

 

There is no war in which innocents won't also be harmed. It just won't happen.

As for those locked up in Guantanamo, neither of us is in any position to decide who is innocent or not in there.

 

Yes we are.. They are innocent until proven guilty.. You can't hold people without due process of law.. There are no charges pending.

OBVIOUSLY, they are innocent. You can't call them guilty without even naming a single crime they did.

 

But this is warfare. You can't assume everyone on the battlefield is innocent until a court says otherwise The same must apply to Guantanamo prisoners, who are essentially POWs.

 

The US constitution and international law say otherwise.

They don't get these prisoners off the battlefield.. If they're on a battlefield they get killed.

They break down people's doors in the middle of the night and seize them.

You must also realize they've already cleared most for release by the Justice Dept. The idea of whether or not they are terrorists was sorted out years ago. They're not. Obama holds them anyway.

 

Ah, well then I don't know. It is kind of funny for the guy who promised 4+ years ago to close down Guantanamo to be holding prisoners like that from inauguration day right up to the present.

I'm still sure that's not racist, though. Heck, look at Manning and what he has endured.

 

Yeah there's also a war on whistelblowers, critics, protestors etc. It looks like Manning is getting due process though. He was formally charged and attended hearings.

I never said Obama was a racist. What I said was that Obama is only killing Brown people with drones, and Obama is only holding Brown people in his gulag without charge. These are facts.

As for the promise to close Gitmo.. This is usual political empty talk lip service.. Obama's a pro.

I'm trying to get people out of the habit of saying they're going to vote for so and so because this person will do such and such.. They can't assume that just because they say they are going to do something doesn't necessarily mean they will, or that they even want to.

 

And the fact remains that we are only at war (declared or not) with said brown people, not with any other colors at the moment.

 

I agree.. anyone can call their cause "war". It is what it is.. The KKK claimed they were at war with Blacks.

 

what war?

Did the cop get charged for kicking the kid?

Dornier died sustaining that what he claimed was true? Can we put that cop on the stand and impose the same responsibility?

 

Oh, if Dorner died in that cabin, which seems likely, he was summarily executed by a lot of angry thugs in uniform.

 

So did the terrorist/former-cop light the fire then shoot himself? I also wonder what his stance was with the Muslim Brotherhood and Islamists.

 

again, all over the country people are shooting people because of inequities

i dont condone nor ever did, 9/11 but..... and like of Dorner, i try to see what could cause this kind of commitment.

columbine?

newtown?

it's sad

 

I'm sure he had legitimate grievances, that he was about as sane as a murderer can be. He became like V, killing certain people (and those who would try to stop him with force) in a quest for vengeance and social change as a result of what had happened to him (and to others in his experience) earlier.

I like your questioning. It shows that you're above the goofy right-wrong black and white mindset so many display.

 

Only the left seem to applaud killers if they are the right race. Zimmerman was assumed to be white so the left made up their mind that Zimmerman was white, argued it, and put themselves on one side. They are doing the same thing in this case, the killer is black so he automatically is correct, right, and right in what he does. Sad.

 

All the details aren't in yet, but I heard on radio reports that the police fired tear gas cannisters, and, a couple were incendiary. There will be civil rights groups who will complain, and then there are conspiracy nuts who will blame the cops for a cover-up. I say the rat-bastard went down in flames, as he deserved.

Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/burn_this_mother_m1dKNrfBJza1Apo1D0OrlJ

 

They wanted him dead to silence him, if they just captured him and went to trial how many dirty LA cops would have been named? Of course they wanted him dead and they carried out their plan.
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Did Police Order Media Blackout to Cover Up Plan to Kill Dorner?

February 13, 2013

Audio which indicates police involved in the siege against Christopher Dorner deliberately planned to set fire to the fugitive’s cabin was preceded by an attempt by authorities to impose a media blackout in an apparent effort to cover up the chain of events that led to Dorner’s death.

As the standoff reached its height, Big Bear-area police scanners were disabled online in order to “ensure officer safety.”

However, the feeds were not cut until after police were clearly heard discussing plans to “go ahead with the plan with the burners,” while on another audio feed from a local news broadcast, cops were heard shouting, “burn this mother(*)(*)(*)(*)er.”

At around the same time, CNN’s Wolf Blitzer announced that police had asked news networks not to film live footage of the scene.

Earlier in the day, the the LAPD issued a request to media outlets to “please stop tweeting” about unfolding events.

This was followed by a tweet, subsequently deleted, from the San Bernardino District Attorney which stated, “The sheriff has asked all members of the press to stop tweeting immediately. It is hindering officer safety.”

Luckily, journalist Max Blumenthal, who was listening live to police scanner feeds, defied the order and continued to tweet about how cops were talking about their plan to burn down the cabin, which led to Dorner’s death.

The ferocious response from twitter users to the attempted media blackout led some mainstream news outlets to report that “conspiracy theorists” saw the censorship as a deliberate attempt to cover up the fact that “police left Dorner to burn alive inside the cabin.”

However, this is no longer up for debate, since police scanner audio clearly captures officers talking about letting the fire “burn through the basement,” having previously planned to “burn that (*)(*)(*)(*)ing house down.”

The deliberate attempt to blackout media coverage of the event in the hours leading up to the cabin being intentionally set on fire by police clearly suggests that authorities were keen to cover up the fact that they were carrying out the pre-planned execution of Christopher Dorner.

Reports that Dorner was ” pushed back inside” the cabin when he attempted to leave also point to this conclusion. Why not just shoot him if he failed to surrender? Why push him back inside the building and prolong the standoff?

No one is attempting to condone Dorner’s actions, but the fact that police officers carried out what clearly appears to be a pre-planned summary execution, on top of their frenzied random shooting sprees of innocent people over the last few days, is a frightening glimpse into a fast-approaching police state where authorities dish out instant Judge Dredd-style justice by killing Americans accused of crimes and denying them a fair trial.

http://theintelhub.com/2013/02/14/did-police-order-media-blackout-to-cover-up-plan-to-kill-dorner/