Men Unite to Stand Against Violence Towards Women

That makes no sense.

Nobody wants to PUT women on the front lines....some people do want women to have the same freedom to fight for their country as men do.


And YES! Some women do want their cake and eat it too JUST LIKE MEN have always done....So WHAT!?

 

Interesting how old some people seem to be.

 

Reason and collectivism don't go together very well.

 

At least you can admit that you want revenge and not equality. Some people are not so honest.

 

What he writes is complete nonsense. There were no human rights in the last 10 000 years, neither for men nor for women. Most people had the right for their slave master or their feudal master at best, to talk about civil rights that men had for the last 10 000 years is so unbelievable stupid, only a feminist can write such nonsense.

 

OK, might have been off on the 10,000 years (although men have always had the upper hand simply due to more physical strength (which mattered when they lived in caves) but certainly not more mental strength
... it's still quite a long time...

but you're wrong about rights.

Hammurabi Code is thought to date back to 1762 BC. Its epilogue proclaims that “the powerful may not oppress the weak; the law must protect widows and orphans (&#8230 in order to bring justice to the oppressed”.

From the Cyrus Cylinder, 6th centuryBC:

freeing their inhabitants from their "yoke," and he "brought relief to their dilapidated housing (thus) putting an end to their (main) complaints."[29]

 

That "E" word is a strange one, with sooooo many conflicting meanings. WTF does "equality" mean now anyway?
Another phrase I love is "affirmative action". Affirmative Action, is the PC, bypass card that frees them from the obligations of pretty well all of the "isms". For example, let`s say an orange colored neighbor wasn`t completely perfect. At any time of your choosing, you can walk over and kick the sh!t out of your neighbor, without fear of being labeled "orangist", PROVIDING you call up an affirmative action absolver, before hand. Too easy.

 

So then, according to your cheap argument women had equal rights. So, no problem at all.

Great! And there were the Roman Law as well. Do you really believe this nonsense at all?

None of these rights were given to slaves. As you mention yourself many of these rights were not the same for women. The idea of universal human rights at all goes back to the 18th century, but the reality was far behind the ideas of the Age of Enlightenment.

Excuse me, but this feminist nonsense is unbearable.

 

I didn't think I was 10,000 years old yet... sorry for the oppression... Honestly, that's like saying that I need to apologize to every black guy I see because many generations before they were born, somebody made some people with his skin color into slaves... only because many generations before I was born, those slavers happened to be the same color skin as me. Hell, every Jew should get free taxi service under that logic... And weinerschnitzels...

 

You are familiar with all human cultures around the world for the past 10K years? No wonder someone else seems so stupid.

 

No, do I have to?

 

Today is White Ribbon Day - "Australia's campaign to stop violence against women."

I marched with over a thousand others this morning. The NSW Police Commissioner Andrew Scipione said in his speech that:

- 1 woman a week is murdered in Australia because of domestic violence / sexual abuse.

- 1 in 3 women in their life will have violence perpetrated on them by a male.

- Domestic violence is the leading cause of women and their children becoming homeless.


As I said in the opening post, it is wonderful to see men getting behind this initiative to stop violence against women.

A minority of men perpetrate violence on women... and for the rest of men to stand against those men that perpetrate violence on women is a powerful message to them.

http://www.whiteribbon.org.au/what-is-white-ribbon

 

Feminists have double standards and they believe that women are superior to men. They never explicitly say it, but their actions and words heavily imply it. I notice that there are many similarities between feminism and affirmative action.

 

And this has what to do with men that perpetrate violence on women?

This was a march where it was predominately men that marched against the perpetration of violence on women by a 'minority' of other men.

Your turning this into a feminist-bashing exercise is tiresome and telling.

The men on the march this morning had calibre and character, a far cry from some of the Mod Edit ~ Unnecessary on this forum.

Feminist blah blah.

Try addressing the subject... if you can.

 

*Common myths about domestic violence:
According to the FBI:
•“A woman is beaten every 15 seconds.”
•“4,000 women each year are killed by their husbands, ex-husbands, or boyfriends”
•“There are nearly 3X as many animal shelters in the states as there are shelters for women”
•“Battering during pregnancy is the leading cause of birth defects & infant mortality.”
•“Women who kill their batterers receive longer prison sentences than men who kill their partners”
Richard Gelles, an internationally-recognized expert on domestic violence, refers to many of these claims as “factoids from nowhere.”
*Some studies of domestic violence assess both physical & verbal abuse. That inflates & distorts the picture of physical violence.
[Source: MA Straus: The controversy over domestic violence by women: A methodological, theoretical, & sociology of science analysis. In XB Arriaga & S Oskamp: Violence in intimate relationships. Sage Publishers, 1999.
*According to “Stop Abusive & Violent Environments” (SAVE): A 10,000 household survey shown 11% of respondents said they’d been falsely accused. 81% of the falsely accused were men.
http://tinyurl.com/4xaosrh
*The U.S. Centers for Disease Control & Prevention report, "In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated w/ more frequent violence among women, but not men."
[Source: Whitaker, Haileyesus, Swahn & Saltzman, Differences in Frequency of Violence & Reported Injury Between Relationships W/ Reciprocal & Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence, American Journal of Public Health, May 2007, Vol. 97, No. 5, pp. 941-947
*A 1998 Department of Justice study found that 834,000 or 36% of the 2.3 million victims of domestic violence are men. Over 100 other studies support that finding.
*According to the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence there are over 2,000 shelters in the United States serving female victims of domestic violence. There are 2 known to provide shelter to male victims.
*Credible research overwhelmingly shows that the ratio of DV is AT LEAST 50/50 between men & women. According to the CDC, 1 study shows that in 70% of DV incidence where the violence is not mutual, women are the perpetrators.
http://tinyurl.com/yzm9xhee
*According to the National Family Violence Survey, female victims of DV are 9X more likely to call the police than male DV victims. The % who called the police in response to the assault: Women: 8.5%, Men: 0.9%
[Source: JE Stets & MA Straus: Gender differences in reporting marital violence & its medical & psychological consequences. In Straus & Gelles (editors): Physical violence in American families, 1990, Table 15.]
*Cal State Psychology Professor Martin Fiebert has assembled a bibliography of 175 scholarly investigations: 139 empirical studies & 36 reviews &/or analyses, which demonstrate that women are as physically aggressive, or more aggressive, than men in their relationships w/ their spouses or male partners.
*In 2008, 151,123,745 men (99.82% of all men in the population) were NOT arrested for a violent crime in the USA.
*The National Youth Survey (NYS) which surveyed 1,725 individuals periodically over 17 years starting in 1976 found that incarcerated women commit acts of violence toward intimates at a rate slightly higher than men. Moreover many other researchers such as Straus & Gelles (National Family Violence Survey) established the same fact. This fundamental fact is reconfirmed in the exhaustive research of Philip W. Cook in his book, " Abused Men: The Hidden Side of Domestic Violence".

 

The Police Commissioner of NSW is NOT going to fudge FACTS about domestic violence. This was in large part a police initiative, whereby police KNOW about domestic violence in their profession. Yes, a police force gets behind advocating for violence against women to stop...

and meanwhile, Mod Edit ~ Unnecessary/Stop the innuendo without CREDIBLE sources dribble about. And their links are obsolete.

Police Commisioner Andrew Scipione:

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/11/25/12/24/men-take-oath-on-white-ribbon-day

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2013/11/25/12/24/men-take-oath-on-white-ribbon-day

I find it quite pathetic that anyone wants to challenge or use their feminst-bashing-nonsense here in light of an entire police force and the Police Commissioner of NSW getting behind this initiative and advocating for violence on women to stop.

To repeat: The police force and the Police Commissioner of NSW. Credible ambassadors? Bloody oath.

Save your bleatings or back up your nonsense... as if you could.

 

Good, you can find what you think is implied, and then make a statement of fact out of it.

 

The police are a credible source when it comes to gender issues??????????? Maybe that's the case in Australia, I wasn't there long enough to form an opinion however; the police are not a credible source when it comes to gender issues in the United States. For example:

women are given 63% lighter sentences for comitting the same offence as men and that’s after being 20 times less likely to even be prosecuted in the first place

Is this source credible enough, a peer reviewed scientific journal



Estimating Gender Disparities in Federal Criminal Cases


Sonja B. Starr

University of Michigan Law School

August 29, 2012

University of Michigan Law and Economics Research Paper, No. 12-018

Abstract:
This paper assesses gender disparities in federal criminal cases. It finds large gender gaps favoring women throughout the sentence length distribution (averaging over 60%), conditional on arrest offense, criminal history, and other pre-charge observables. Female arrestees are also significantly likelier to avoid charges and convictions entirely, and twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted. Prior studies have reported much smaller sentence gaps because they have ignored the role of charging, plea-bargaining, and sentencing fact-finding in producing sentences. Most studies control for endogenous severity measures that result from these earlier discretionary processes and use samples that have been winnowed by them. I avoid these problems by using a linked dataset tracing cases from arrest through sentencing. Using decomposition methods, I show that most sentence disparity arises from decisions at the earlier stages, and use the rich data to investigate causal theories for these gender gaps.

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.c...act_id=2144002

I think domestic violence is bad regardless of which gender is the victim. I don't think men should be singled out as the perpetrators of domestic violence, at least in the USA, especially given that women make up the majority of non recipricol domestic violence perpetrators in the USA.

Cheers,

Ryobi

 

Point taken. And thanks.

I have discussed it on pages 4 and 5 of this thread.

I was sorry to learn after reading one of your recent posts that you also had suffered abuse and PTSD.

I wish you love and healing and strength.

 

Citation Please

Preferably a peer reviewed scientific journal

 

Citation Please

Preferably a peer reviewed scientific journal, rather than someone's opinion

Thank You,

Ryobi

 

No one's been alive for 10,000 years, not even men

 

Like this.....



What rights have you been denied???