Blowback: Firearms companies refusing to sell restricted guns to law enforcement

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  1. Blackrook

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    You are trolling. There is no way you could possibly think a separate warrant is required to search every cabin in Big Bear for a dangerous fugitive.
     
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    If they don't trust us with guns,Why should we trust them with the government?
     
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    No, simply pointing out the delicious irony in your "teh liberalz r takin mah freedomz!!!111111" hysteria when you support the police state.

    You wine about being treated like peasants when you support the laws that make it so that the statist swine may treat us as such.

    Good job.
     
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    Police are citizens the same as anyone else! Why should any cop get to use ANYTHING that citizens can't? The whole concept of police means CITIZENS enforcing the law. That concept only gets abandoned currently in USA (and MANY other countries) as they are trying to grow towards a police state, in which police are above the law, and they are the law, but people need to remember: police are citizens, and it was never meant to be that way.

    Every single cop is required to follow every single law that anyone else must follow. That's a basic fact.

    Even when they go and take your drugs.. Half of your drugs wind up in evidence.. The other half they either use the drugs or sell them on.

    Irrespective of what anybody thinks about gun rights, the fact remains that we shouldn't allow authoritarianism that goes beyond due democratic limits.. Excellent thread BTW and cheers to the OP.
     
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    I think they are saying that police chiefs who parrot their political masters do not deserve to get by without consequences. karma...what goes around comes around...

    That said, until the companies are the ones the police usually buy from, it will have little effect. Ammo company boycots would be more effective.
     
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    Or than the fact the police can murder you and get Officer of the Year.

    Citizens are executed for such acts.
     
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    Exactly.. The level of tolerance for police brutality, pissing on the constitution, and downright crimes we have for police is absolutely APPALLING.

    Police should have to live up to the HIGHEST of standards, even HIGHER and more professional than any other normal citizen.

    The fact that people are letting police get away with the (*)(*)(*)(*) they've been pulling over the last few years is disgraceful.. But what can you do right? That's why they call it a "police state".
     
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    Barrett Firearms...

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  9. Blackrook

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    The police need us more than we need them.

    We pay their salaries, we pay for their big, fat benefits packages, we pay for their early retirement plans that allow them to retire in their 50's.

    All they do for us is show up after a crime has already been committed.
     
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    And let's keep in mind that when the balloon goes up, the cops will be taking orders from Obama.
     
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    When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.

    Victims are the first line of defense in protecting their own life. So, it would seem obvious to anybody with half a brain that the victim should be armed more than the police because by the time the police show up, the crime has already happened and the police are left with tapping off the area and questioning witnesses which doesn't require a firearm.
     
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    Ok fair enough. That will work.
     
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    This is hilarious. Hopefully this will help cut down on government hypocrisy.
     
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    So then you are in favor of the removal of the death penalty? And search warrants? And arresting? Obviously I can't shoot somebody or go through their house or arrest somebody, so why should the police be able to?


    Republicans are more attached to the idea that a police state is kept at bay by their twelve gauge than liberals are devoted to the idea that the rich are naturally evil and that there's a racist behind every door.
     
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    That's not got anything to do with it.. This should only occur after the due course of due process of law. But incidentally, I am against the death penalty just because of the off chance you've got a faulty conviction, which has happened.

    Not at all.. The police ought to have search warrants more times and too often they do without even though they need the warrant.

    Anyone can do this police or other civilian alike. All this means is you haul someone in front of a judge and accuse them of something.

    But like with police, a citizen's arrest requires evidence and a case, and like with uniformed police, you'd better have this if you're going to drag someone this way. Of course many times with police you get people hauled in when they shouldn't be.

    NOBODY is ever allowed to just barge in someone's house, unless they have express judicial approval. NOBODY is ever allowed to shoot somebody, unless they had imminent reason, like they are trying to attack. And the person/people shot had BETTER be armed.

    I don't usually involve with the partisan stuff but I tell ya I see plenty of desires towards a police state coming from both sides of it. Still at least there are people on either side that know what's up in regards to the rapid rise of powers the federal government, and many police forces, are assuming.
     
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    What would be your initial reaction, honestly, if you saw (from a safe distance) a man with a gun walk into a convenience store, and heard gunshots? Would you say "Eh, the police don't do anything, I just won't call them"?
     
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    They don't need the sales.

    American citizens are flocking to the gun shows and buy guns faster than the arms companies can make them.
     
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    I would call 911, and the police might show up on time. But that isn't likely if the robber is already shooting people.
     
  20. Nick Simonson

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    But on the off chance that they do show up on time, what good can they do if they are outgunned, or worse, unarmed?
     
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    Hand gun or rifle. You don't need an AR-15 or a Bushmaster.
     
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    No they won't. Washington doesn't pay them.
     

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