Nearly half Saudi women are beaten at home. No surprise there...

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nearly half Saudi women are beaten up by their husbands or other family members at home and many of them are hit by sticks and head cover, according to a university study published in local newspapers on Tuesday. Surprisingly, the study found that the Bedouin men who still dwell the desert in the conservative Gulf Kingdom, are less violent than Saudi men in urban areas.

    The study was conducted by Dr Lateefa Abdul Lateef, a social science professor at King Saud University in the Capital Riyadh. It involved female students at the university and some Saudi women covered by the government’s social security. “The study showed that nearly half those covered by social security and more than a third of the female students at the university are beaten up at home,” Dr Lateefa said, quoted by the Saudi Arabic language daily Almadina.

    “Husbands were found to be beating their wives more than others….they are followed by fathers, then brothers then sons…hands and sticks were found to be used mostly in beating women, following by men’s head cover and to a lesser extent, sharp objects.” The study showed that husbands beating their wives included both educated and non-educated men and that “those dwelling in the desert are less violent with their wives than those living in cities or villages.”

    The study found that the main reasons for violence against women include poor religious motives, drug addiction and alcoholism, arrogance and a tendency to control, psychological problems, poverty, and unemployment.

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    http://www.emirates247.com/crime/re...-women-are-beaten-at-home-2013-02-26-1.496510

    Ok, no real surprises there; after all, its all over Qu'ran that man must beat his wife - if I correctly remember, there's at least 4 situation detailed in Qu'ran that the women must be beaten by her husband - if she goes out of house without permission, if she refuses to have sex, if she looks less then perfect to her husband and something else, i think. So the Saudis, being good followers of Allah that they are, must obey the Qu'ran. Very logical.

    Is education plays role in the beatings? Not according to the study - both educated and uneducated Saudi muslims beat their significant others... evidently, irrelevant of progress in other areas (I heard, pretty soon, as early as in the next century, women may be allowed to drive in KSA) blind religion takes precedence over education... Sickening.
     
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    But isn't this the fault of the joos, the big Satan or at the very least, the neo-zionists....?

    Seriously, this is disgusting and must be condemned by everyone who respects women.
     
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    Not surprising.
     
  4. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it's not. But we should not be talking about Islam culture; there's much more fun in discussing yet another fabricated story in Electronic Enchilada.
     
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    String 'em up. It don't matter none who, jest as long as there's some stringin'

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    Nearly half Saudi women are beaten at home Nearly half islamic women, Moon. Wanna run percentage game? We could...
     
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    Bedouins are very famous for their culture of hospitality. They also are forced to rely on their women more for daily tasks, and no doubt the fact that the women cannot just be shut away has something to do with it also. Corresponding to this, most traditional Bedouin women do not cover their face, like the settled Arab population does. To some extent, Saudi Arabia recognizes this, and the same strict cultural taboos are not necessarily applied to bedouin women, so long as they are not in the cities.
     
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    Maybe you missed the thrust of the link;

    Now then, is it wife-beating you want to condemn or is it moslems ? You don't seem at all sure.
     
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    Moon, I am condemning beating of women by islamic men. Have you've missed the thrust of my post? :)
     
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    Women in Saudi do not have basic rights at all and live under a tough regime.Unfortunately it is not going to change soon but if a retaliation commences then the prospect for ridding women of stern policy against them would become much larger.
     
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    No, I'm straightening your aim. Wife-beating is not the preserve of Saudi men. You did mean Saudi men, did you not ? You've stated, above, that you're condemning muslims . Freudian slip ?
    Let's remind you again of the terms used in your own post. Saudi women.

    Of course, all cultures are at it, apparently. Check it out;

    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/...wish-tradition
     
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    Your feeble attempt at diversion from the thrust of the OP will not work, Moon. Nearly half Saudi women are beaten at home. In other words, almost 50% of the Saudi women are beaten. That's shocking, Moon, especially when you consider the reasons Saudi men (all extremely religious and good muslims, no doubts, simply follow in the steps of Muhammad. In their mind, they commit no crime, not even disrespect for a women being beaten- they're simply follow in the steps of the prophet.

    50%, Moon - it means behind nearly every other burqa or niqab there's a shiner :)
     
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    It is obviously an incredibly high number by any standards and no doubt much higher than in the West, despite Moon's attempts to white wash it.

    It tells me that that society is backwards and that womens' rights are sorely lacking.

    But as long as muslim women in England think it isn't all that bad (as it exists in the West), don't expect much to change.

    Women will have to drive the change. Don't expect those fat machos to give up their control willingly.
     
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    Pointing out reality is a feeble attempt at diversion? You are either a very confused person or simply want to point out the flaws of one society while ignoring the flaws within your own. Just because you only want to focus on one group does not remove the reality that it happens in all cultures and on far too frequent a time scale. Step one to curing the ills of the world starts in the mirror.
     
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    Saudi is Wahhabism. I am surprised though if 50% of Saudi women are beaten because I got the impression that they were quite happy.

    Muslim women in Britain do not expect to be abused and do bring things out if they are needing help on them, for instance forced marriage and we go off and try and bring them back. Islam itself does not support these things. It generally comes from tribal ways of people of many different religions. I know in Scotland Muslims themselves have been educating new immigrants that wife beating and such like are not acceptable in Islam.
     
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    Alexa your impression appears to be false.

    Muslim women in Britain on this thread are responding to this matter by pointing to Western society instead of condemning this treatment of women as they should. It seems their objections are limited to Israel.
     
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    You're saying now that that's the case in Saudi Arabia. You previously attempted to portray wife-beating as a solely moslem trait - which is clearly a nonsense, and a racist nonsense at that. Why before we know where we are we'll have all sorts of repressed racists leaping into your thread .
    Did you check the link which reports that wife-beating takes place in all cultures ? You didn't mention it. Here it is again;

    http://jwa.org/encyclopedia/article/wifebeating-in-jewish-tradition
     
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    Are you meaning Moon? She is correctly pointing out that wife beating happens in all cultures. I think she is irritated at suggesting all Muslims beat their women as this is really a tribal thing, irrespective of religion. Hence you will find it among Hindu's, Muslims and Christian's also living in tribal societies. Then they immigrate and learn it is against their religion. Oh and you will also find it in Western societies and all others. All about male honour whatever it is called.

    The report on the Saudi women is surprising which is why I suggest Wahhabism but whether Wahhabi's are allowed to hit their women I do not know. I just know not so in traditional Islam. No doubt Margot will be on soon.
     
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    No, not ' irritated ', alexa. I enjoy a good game of Whack-a-mole with neoZionism's apologists.

    You're correct, of course. The thread author has been stripped of his agenda and members' angst turned towards the reality of world-wide misogyny. Case closed really, until somebody provides the bad-boy burqa-baiters with fresh ammunition.
     
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    I did looked at your source, Moon - a fascinating reading indeed. Lucky for the women of the world (and sadly for the muslim women), no other culture follows the command of their religious prophet to the letter :)
     
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    Burqa-baiting is for bores.
     
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    And hence you come out in all of your splendor, Moon. Your agenda is evident - Whack-a-mole at anything Zionist, whether the OP is about Israel or Jews, or not.
     
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    Burqa is now available for babies and islamic dogs, least they been seen :)
     
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    Something puzzling about this report. I thought that women in Saudi Arabia were so repressed that they would not dare take part in any survey. What sample of women were asked if their husbands beat them up? Dutch, are you now suggesting that Muslim women do have freedom of expression in Saudi Arabia and are not as scared as you have been postulating?
     

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