Less than 10% of Egyptian Muslims accept evolution

In some Muslim countries as little as 8-11% of the population believe in evolution - we often here left wingers and atheists pointing fingers at Christians in the US, or how only about 50% of the population here accepts evolution, but they don't give this same attention to Islam. A great example of anti-Christian bigotry.

A 2007 study of religious patterns found that only 8% of Egyptians, 11% of Malaysians, 14% of Pakistanis, 16% of Indonesians, and 22% of Turks agree that Darwin's theory is probably or most certainly true, and a 2006 survey reported that about 25% of Turkish adults agreed that human beings evolved from earlier animal species

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_views_on_evolution

 

Egyptian muslims aren't trying to make US schools teach creationism alongside evolution. Why would anyone in the US, not just atheists, give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about whether Egyptian muslims believe in evolution or not?

 

How many Egyptian Muslims are trying to pass laws to get Creationism taught in schools in the US?

 

http://www.youtube.com/results?sear....0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0...0.0...1ac.aEnNwmfvDkY


Ignorant Christian proved ignorant.

 

Generally, Egyptian Muslims don't really get on any online forums I frequent and try to promote creationism. However, since their arguments are essentially identical to Christian arguments, I'd just rehash the Christian ones all over again.

 

*L* So? You're happy that you're not as bad as severely indoctrinated, under-educated Muslims? That's like comparing yourself to the homeless to feel good about your living conditions.

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I've seen a couple videos of Muslims talking creation. They definitely rival Eric Hovind in many respects..

 

Best anti-war-on-Christianity thread ever. you and i debate evolution. you point out we don't address unassociated parties debate you bring up. you figure out plot to crush Christianity! DARN YOU PESKY THEIST!

 

Americans are much more concerned on what goes in their borders than what goes on outside their borders.

 

If a Muslim created a thread here saying that evolution was false and atheists are therefore wrong and/or stupid, It'd be on like Donkey Kong. You are not a special little snowflake, you are just a squeaky wheel getting the oil.

 

So basically, there is as much to fear from fundamentalist Christians as from fundamentalist Muslims.


BTW, if you owned a bio-tech company....would you hire a college graduate from "Bob Jones" or "Liberty University", Christian or Muslim.....that didn't believe in evolution???

 

Muslims in Egypt are not attempting creationism in school here in the US.

So, I am thinking of a number between 0 and 10, it is the number of (*)(*)(*)(*)s I give about what Eqytians believe about reality.

What is the number?

 

I frankly don't spend much time worrying about what other countries think about evolution but since you seem to care- what is occurring in Egypt is common in cultures with orthodox religions that reject modern science.

If your point is that the uneducated in Egypt are as ignorant as the evolution deniers in the U.S.(Christian or not)- I agree completely.

 

I wonder what percentage of your posts don't hold the answer to the question your asking.

 

I am misri and made this and i hope someone would tell me any "scientific errors" there
http://evolutionfactormyth.blogspot.com/
and i want everyone here to know that egyptians think darwinism is a bad joke.

 

Well, I am not a scientist by trade, but looking at that page, if science is YOUR trade, then you are in the wrong job.

"Darwinists make an enormous contradiction in the face of that fact, trying to explain it as if these appropriate conditions themselves had created living things"

That's simply wrong. You don't seem to understand the concepts of evolutionary pressure. The conditions produce that pressure which can (but is not guaranteed to) result in some organisms becoming more successful than others. The conditions and the pressure most definitely do not create any living things, and anyone who says that they do is not a Darwinist, they're an ignoramus.

"Living things can only emerge with a conscious intervention—in other words, a supernatural creation."

You have not even ATTEMPTED to make a scientific statement there - just an opinion. Nothing wrong with opinions of course, but you asked about scientific errors, when there was no real science to begin with.

 

I suspect there are many closet atheists in Islamic countries where being found out to be an atheist is not good for your health, just as many american atheists don't publicly admit their beliefs...I have an Iranian friend who is a 100% atheist, except as he tells me when he returns to Iran to visit family and he then transforms into a devout muslim...

 

I'm still surprised by the this facet of modern America. It's been a good few decades since atheism was unusual in this country, so we tend to think all developed western nations are similarly evolved. I guess not.

 

Buddhist also don't believe in evolution because these questions aren't relevant for the Buddhist goal of achieving oneself and others from suffering. Buddhists don't need to know the origin of life, in order to achieve enlightenment.

Why no posts about Buddhists not accepting evolution?

 

Religious people overall do not accept evolution. It does not matter if they are Christian or Muslim.

 

I expect those numbers will match those with higher education in those countries...and then there is the unknown how many people who accept evolution lied not trusting the anonymity of the poll...

 

not caring is not the same as not accepting....and how do you know this are you a Buddhist?...

 

fear...fear of losing your job, fear of losing family, fear of losing friends...shunning isn't just restricted to fundamentalist christians...I saw a an american news report on how a high school girl refused to take part in pre game prayers with her school basketball team, she found herself ostracized by the entire school, shunning is a powerful weapon...

 

Both the Bible and the Koran promote evolution. The problem is that they don't have verses saying: Listen up dummies, when lifeforms change it's evolution!

In the Koran one such passage is Surah 39:6 = He has created you from a single being, then made its mate of the same (kind), and He has made for you eight of the cattle in pairs. He creates you in the wombs of your mothers-- a creation after a creation-- in triple darkness; that is Allah your Lord, His is the kingdom; there is no god but He; whence are you then turned away?

The passage can be confusing because it starts with humans and transitions to cattle and back to humans. However, the first clause starts with a single person as the origin of humanity. So if we are all descendents of one person we must have evolved in order to have achieved the variety that exists now. Otherwise we would be more uniform.

In the Bible it's Wisdom 19:19 (CEB) = Wisdom 19:19 In this way, land animals were changed into underwater creatures, while animals that swam in the waters now moved onto the land.

 

Well, even if you're correct, I guess I don't see posts from Buddhists claiming that evolution is wrong because, well, frankly I don't know if I've actually seen a Buddhist post here at ALL. To be blunt, I'd be really quite interested to see such a thread, as I'm not aware that I've ever heard a Buddhist's opinion on evolution before.

 

many medicines themselves are manmade evolutions (creations)

I suggest putting each on the block at the time of life and death:

do you believe that the doctor is going to save your life, with his evolved knowledge

or is god going to save you?


Make it a life or death proposition. It's not inhumane to make a human being responsible. It's inhumane to let the f'..king liars walk.

ps........ keep in mind, that it is genesis (torah) that muslims or christians even hold a creation over evolution argument. Simple put, who are the initial lying sobs that corrupted the whole line of the creation belief?


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