UK joins Syrian invasion with material military support

Fascinating, is this an arab thing or an Islamic thing?

Would you say the same of the Russians also?

 

Thanks for the article, I really enjoyed the read Did you notice that AQ brings organisation and money much as Ive pointed out? Did you notice in the article that AQ helps the FSA rather than the other way around?

This article simply proves the need for the west to provide real arms, organisation and intelligence rather than leaving it to AQ.

As to your next comment, UK forces provided training in organisation, the west had no choice but to help knock him off once involved to quickly end this situation and this stuff about reprisals and rape is mostly hearsay and conjecture - moreover the rebels have little to gain from mass rapes and murder in the midst of recreating the country.

 

Thank you for the "fascinating" compliment
I assume it's an arab thing.

Russians addore strong political figures.. that's why they elected Putin even if he is ( in my opinion ) bad for them.
Russians are used to strong leaders.. their past is full of them ( strong can also mean cruel & tyrants )

 

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rev

 

He was elected. You stated that he was not elected. You were wrong. Your own opinions of the Syrian presidential election processes carry roughly the same weight as your false claim.

 

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Hmmm. maybe in mythical Cyberia BBC is different than the BBC that I receive here in the states. Why? Try as I might I do not hear the BBC reporting in such black and white right vs. wrong manner! Yes indeed the Assad government was democratically elected, but we should for the sake of not committing a lie by omission admit the Assad government was a dictatorship for all intensive purposes. There is a lot more that I disagree with in this thread but I havent read the replies yet stay tuned!

reva

 

See above. Hitler was elected too! He was dictator, I believe that is what Creation meant.

reva

 

Well then, you're just as wrong as he is. The claim was that Assad was NOT elected. That's clearly false. It could not possibly be construed as meaning that Assad was elected. Your claim that it could is equally false.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bashar_al-Assad

Bashar Hafez al-Assad was elected. I am not sure if it was 100% democratic...

 

That's made perfectly clear by post #72.

 

From your own source;

As you can see, he wasnt elected, he was placed in power.

 

Nonsense Moon, you are completely wrong, all that happened was that the government announced hed been elected with 97 % in an unopposed election. That by any definition is not an election, its the placing in power while telling everyone an election has been held.

The simple fact that you dont even have the courage to detail your argument here, instead choosing only to insist that Im wrong and youre right, not why or how you happen to be right, is early proof of the paucity of your argument.

But please continue....lets see how your wriggling is done.

 

After rereading my and the other replies I agree with you. I will say that the way my reply read it looked like I had things reversed. I apologize for the mistake Mr Moon~

reva

 

"Others" does not include the regime in control.

Obviously.

For some reason you equate the ruling party with all other parties.

Pretty crazy.

 

How do you explain some peoples' interest in only certain forms of justice? "Zionism is criminal" but Assad is a democractically elected and legitimate leader so forget the people in that country.

 

Agreed, I do happen to think zionism is criminal, if only because it takes no account of the majority of people living there at the time. However, the contention that Assad is an elected leader is ludicrous, even when Hamas was elected to power it was actually elected ie there was an opposition and there were independent observers of the election present etc.

There is an attempt to pretend that somehow because most Syrians oppose Israel, and even have sympathy with Iran that that somehow translates into widespread support for the Assad regime - it doesnt.

To take an example closer to home, most lefties in the UK support the Falkland islanders, that doesnt mean they voted for the woman who ordered the operation to re take those islands in 1982.

The explanation of the pro assad positions described here is simply that because Assad opposes israel and supports Iran, their narrow minded view of their opposition to israel makes them join in with anyone, including Assad, who would go along with that view.

 

Good for you, appreciated. You'll now see that the claimant still seeks to defy reality by attempting to apply his own perceptions of elections to Syria- to no avail, of course. Assad was elected. Rude bigotry exposed as ignorance, job done.

Creation;

Squid ink. History shows that Assad was elected. Your own denials don't register. In fact, they match your handle.

 

Why are you supporting throat cutting terrorists?

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You should write for Fox News.

 

Nah history, ie your own source and others show he wasnt. If you want to get into the details of that Im available. As for handles, your current position needs to come down to earth.....

 

I dont, why do you? Never mind you sport a blatantly disgraceful sig that seeks to blur the line between zionists and jews in exactly the same way Netanyahu & co do..

Geez your being pretty weak here, Im willing to discuss the details without getting into stuff like 'you should write for....'

Get back to me when youve got a discussion youd like to have with me.

 

Yes you do.

By calling them 'rebels', you dignify them.

 

You must mean the government sponsored alawite death squads.. Thats who's been doing the throat cutting from the start of this conflict.

By defending these actions, youre dignifying both those squads and the regime.

 

My position is more in keeping with that of Russia.

Your position appears to be more in line with Saudi Arabia, and the US of IPAC.

Israel are rubbing their hands, hoping these hard line Al Q thugs make your dream come true.

Their mates in Congress are rubbing their hands, to make your dream come true.

Your position seems naive and contrary. You think Assad is going to go, after which Syria can have fair and free elections, then live happy ever after. Is that what it all comes down to you with, C, get on the same side as Israel and the US of IPAC, murder civilans and children, so long as you get to see a puppet Gov installed, that is more friendly to Israel and the US of IPAC. So long as you have the illusion of 'democracy', then I guess even half a million murdered kids in Iraq was 'worth it, just like Albright said.

Why fly that flag, when in practice, your positon is more in keeping with that of Israel?

 

What so the anti-Assad "rebels" and Assad and his government forces are actually the same? They're not different?

I'm not "equating" anything. I'm clearly differentiating, that's why I said you're blaming somebody ELSE for the car bombs? Assad's not setting off those suicide car bombs.

Try going back and re-reading.

 

It's bad enough posting such a bloomer Then to actually deny the truth in order to save ..er....' face' is truly laughable;

You deserve it.