Where are all the great female leaders?

I believe, or find it reasonable, that the males are overrepresented because they are more the leader type than women, or atleast think they are, it's doesn't matter in any case. And since you mentioned tatcher; one of the greatest brits in my view. yay for the iron lady.

 

Political leaders aren't really leaders, though, they're more crisis managers, harassed functionaries, and often just rearrange the furniture. Most actual leaders and talented women intuitively understand political office is for zombies. "The entertainment branch of the military industrial complex" to paraphrase Zappa.

 

Most women are stupid...

 

wow, easy there woman! I think it's due to a lack of intrests simply, due ultimately to biology

 

I think the basis of this argument is so wrong. That the lack of strong women in politics is entirely at fault of the individual because these women have been "stupid" or "loathsome." Generally speaking the amount of women in politics is startlingly low to begin with. If you know there are smart women out there, then isn't there an inherent flaw in the system that these women don't succeed? Not that they aren't capable?

 

Aung San Suu Kyi gets my respect.

 

Here is a tip. Never go to Scotland and say that.

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Not any more, with 'modern representative democracy'.

But for sure there have been.

 

There have been a fair number of women in British politics for years.

 

I was partly watching this one news/story in regards to women in power (IE: CEO's, Managers, etc). The one lady who wrote a book on the subject (My apologizes for lack of in depth details, its a moot detail anyway) stated that if men & women go out on a business lunch/dinner, what would it seem like? Most women answered 'a date'. I agree with that analogy. So the question was from a mentoring stand point on how more women could climb the career ladder from folks who are in power. Sometimes it's done through lunch or dinner. If it's between one man and one woman, it looks like a date. I can see where that can become a conflict of interest on both parties. Not saying it's the ultimate reason or anything close to it, however, I think it's a very valid point that should be brought up.

In regards to politics, I believe there are plenty of strong, well educated women in the world today & yesterday (Relatively speaking). My own personal opinion is I believe most of the women don't care too much for the political side of things but still have political opinions. What I mean by that is they have values that they hold dear to themselves, political or personally charged. However, some, if not most, don't care to get into politics. They would rather support the individual who bests coincides with their own beliefs and vote for them (Male or female). What you do see is more men, having their testosterone build up inside because of the power they can wield, run for office. I'm not saying women don't have the will to 'push the red button', I just think men are more inclined to fight for power than women. Besides, more times than not, it's always the female in the relationship that is usually the driving factor. Most Presidents rely on their wives to provide input/feedback for their every moves.

Why would a female need to be the single glaring factor when most men rely on their spouses to provide the information they desire? So, in my eyes, women are already in power and have been in power, they just don't wish to be the focal point, all the time. My opinion and how I see things, there are probably a billion various reasons for each woman and I'm not trying to generalize it for any woman.

 

No they don't.

What do you mean?

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No they don't.

What do you mean?

 

If you don't know what I meant, why would you say no they don't?

What I mean is females, or at least in my case with my wife, are usually the ones who provide input on various topics. In my household, when it comes to issues on retirement (Savings, 401k, etc), saving money, and getting other financial issues in check, she is usually my go to for those type of things. When it comes to dealing with the stock market, PM's, and the various other fiscal issues, she doesn't understand it and relies on me to handle it. Basically what I'm getting at is we don't take a step unless it's mutually agreed upon which is better for the family. As such, it's not a relationship where I'm in complete control and everything I do goes. It's mutually benefited and I rely on her as much as she relies on me.

With that in mind, with a household like mine, the woman has a power role in controlling the fate of the family. With Obama & Clinton, they married powerful, smart women. I don't believe that Obama's & Clinton's everyday moves are solely theirs and theirs alone. I do believe they rely on their wives to provide feedback for them and even direction on how they should proceed.

 

I think Palin is significantly smarter than Obama. And I mean in pure, raw intellect.
She chooses to speak in a crude, local, farmer sort of way, which many people equate with ignorance. That doesn't help contradict what the media has tried to say about her either, as you pointed out that the media does.

 

lol! she's a moron

 

There are more differences between men and woman than the sex organs.

Being good leaders vs. being good consultants, is one of them.

 

It wouldn't have mattered if Palin had Christie's spine or not. Liberal women will be painted as smart and Conservative women stupid (same with men) because, with some notable exceptions like conservative bent talk radio, Fox, and a relative few selection of newspapers, most of America's news sources and talking heads are geared for that particular style of discriminating caricature, no matter how fitting or not it may be in any particular case. But you did hit the nail on the head. I don't care what side of this wearisome political spectrum you're on, it really is pretty much the media's call as to how most folks perceive particular political candidates - AND the ideologies they represent. The power these nonobjective tongue-waggers wields in modern American politics cannot to be overstated.

 

I've been to scotland. it's just rainy and muddy, no fun at all. and the people don't have that funny accent that I expected. poor show

What is there to say more about it? I think that men generally tend to be natural leaders and women don't.

 

Sure there are smart women out there but there are even more smart, or good and convincing leaders I should say since that's what it's about, men out there. And besides due to our biology the people also tend to see leaders as being men. It's kinda hard to do anything about it, and in fact I don't think that anything should be done. People should fail or succeed according to merit even if that is partly due to uncontrollable biological factors that work against you.

 

Mostly, they are following my pants! Except Palin, she can think on her own, as she did for Alaska.

 

Why?

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No, "here in the west" has been very slow to follow the rest of the world in elevating/promoting/respecting women leaders....

And despite the work of Misogynists Club of America this country has produced good female leaders in all professions not just politics.

Are they under-publicized ? ya, because this country still doesn't put as much value on women's accomplishments as they do men's.

So you may not get a personalized report on women's progress and accomplishments but they're there.

 

""" think that men generally tend to be natural leaders and women don't"""

You must not get out much....no offense but women are naturally what ever they want to be.

And many are fine leaders....just as soon as they, and the people around them, drop the sexist crap about men being the "natural" leaders....

 

I don't know exactly why actually. I'm not that good at biology. But it sure does seem so no?

 

Please don't ignore that there are actually differences between the sexes. And I think that generally, though there are of course exceptions, that men are more inclined to be leaders.

And how come there aren't many female leaders around now nor in history? And I seriously believe that people, subconsciously, look to men more often than women when they seek leaders, and that men are more likely to accept that role. And this is not how I want it to be mind you, but how I believe it is.

 

Hey, it's Women's history Month...just google it...or ""women leaders in America""....it might open up your eyes.


And, as you educate yourself as to women's accomplishments, try to remember that they all had the added burden of overcoming sexist attitudes WHILE becoming successful leaders....men have had an edge....they NEVER had to prove they could take care of kids AND work.

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Biology is not destiny.

 

Examples?

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Oh this is not going to be all down to biology yet again, is it?