Palestinians want peace talks ??

The numerous examples of Israel dropping massive ordinance on heavily populated areas is all the evidence one should need. Its not like Britain is the only country that has been critical of Israel. Even the US (Israel's best friend) has been condemned some of the more aggressive attacks.

In addition, groups like Amnesty international and pretty much every human rights group on the planet has had severe criticism for Israel.

Your just blind to reality, that's your problem.

 

According the International Committee of the Red Cross, the civilian-to-soldier death ratio in wars fought since the mid-20th century has been 10:1, meaning ten civilian deaths for every soldier death. In wars fought by Israel the ratio is 10 or more times better than average. This is all the evidence one should need to see that you are full of it and that Israel does not intentionally kills civilians.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualty_ratio

 

Israel Did Everything it Could to Avoid Civilian Casualties

 

Yes Amnesty agree with Universal Jurisdiction

Obviously it could only be used for known war criminals. Tzipi Livni could not come to Britain as she would be arrested. Government changed and the Conservatives wanted to change this. They do not believe in human rights and are threatening to leave the EU if they have to go along with them, forgetting that it was ourselves who put them in. It was believed it was pressure from Israel but the Conservatives are funded by Friends of Israel so it may have been that. Tzipi Livini of course came immediately. However it has not been removed. It has only had parts changed which make it more difficult but not impossible for members of the public to alert the courts to these criminals.

If I remember correctly they had to provide her with extra security by pretending she was someone she was on a special mission and it was very unpopular, only being passed by one or two votes. When we get a new government in might change back.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/oct/07/israel-tzipi-livni

 

So......they are not the military wing. They are civilians

We are talking about the Policemen Darling and while I know Israel gives herself immunity for killing Palestinian civilians when not at war, when at war Israel is held account for war crimes and killing civilian Policemen at their Graduation, is a war crime. I do not make it up. You would do better talking to the proper authorities than whining to me.

Stop this incessant lying. I correctly pointed out that you were presenting a previous abnormal situation - one where Israel and the United States had concocted a civil war. Of course they needed their police to be different when there were loons on the street and I provided you with the link on that

during a civil war which had been arranged by Israel and the USA. You can say it for a million years but it will not change the reality that Israels killing of Gaza's civilian Policemen was a war crime

ha ha well you would say that as it told the truth - and much of that truth came from Israels own soldiers.

They employed them yes as local authorities usually do and no they were not legitimate targets.


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very sad commentary. Our leaders are always going on about how we set and example in relation to human rights, democracy and so forth.

We set an example alright .... a bad one. Hopefully not too many other countries follow our lead.

 

Gatestone Institute? A Jewish propaganda source, and you expect anyone to take them, and their protestations of 'impartiality' seriously? Pull the other one.

 

Nonsense, there was always a civilian police force in Nazi Germany.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordnungspolizei
Aren't you glad there are people willing to take time out to educate you? No need to thank me.

 

BBC confirms...oh, BBC must be jewish propaganda too, how could I forget....Oh and btw, love your use of the word "jewish". Are you going Nazier on us, not bothering with politically correct "zionist" any more? LOL Nice to see your true face, buddy.


But my first stop wasn't Glasgow, it was Tower Hamlets, "Britain's most deprived borough", which lies between the glittering twin pillars of Docklands and the City of London.

The stairwells are ruled by heroin users and prostitutes - keeping the locals locked behind heavy doors.

About a third of the people living here are of Bangladeshi origin - this rises to almost 50% among under 16s.

Teenage gangs and crime are a big problem here. But it is not a race issue - Asian on Asian attacks are the norm.


I'd seen many, many gangs of teenagers gathered in the tough Tower Hamlets estates, some selling drugs or up to mischief. Others lighting fires. Some simply hanging around.


But I was surprised by the early evening attack on me, when it came - because it was from around a dozen 14-year-old boys in one of the borough's biggest open spaces, Victoria Park. A boy, his face covered in a bandana, threatened to slash my face with a home made knife - just for looking at him.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4007409.stm

 

Pathetic. People use ' jewish ' when appropriate and ' Zionist ' when talking about Zionism. You talk like ' jew ' is a dirty word. Pathetic.

 

Yes armed hamas "civilians".

Nope we're talking about armed members of Hamas.

They were not a civilian police force they are a paramilitary organization which Israel is at war with, had Hamas not supplanted the actual civilian police force with the executive force you might have a point but they did so you don't.

The US didn't start the civil war and neither did Israel in fact the main reason for the civil war was because Hamas was replacing the local police force with party loyalists.

No the civil war was precipitated with the Hamas takeover, that's what caused the split, that was the breaking point.

Then why has Goldstone been so critical of his own report?

lmfao ya after obtaining political power normal political parties start replacing the local police forces of their districts with party loyalists, perhaps on planet Alexa but here in the real world that is a tyrannical act employed by parties attempting to take absolute totalitarian control.

These were NOT members of a civilian police force they were members of Hamas and a paramilitary organization consisting of Hamas members which REPLACED the civilian police force an act which likewise caused the civil war between Hamas and Fatah in the first place.

 

The JEWS will never allow another slaughter of its people to ever happen again. Islam the religion of MADNESS days are over. One day hopefully sooner rather than later the Free-Sane nations will join forces and drive the Islamic Lunatic nations into irrelevance.

 

Yeah, that's what them thar muzzies deserve after perpetratin' that there holycaust agin them nice jewish folk an invadin' their country an all.

 

Are Jews not Jewish any longer?

 

The article says they became centralized under direct Nazi leadership:

The Orpo was under the control of Reichsführer-SS Heinrich Himmler who was the Chef der Deutschen Polizei im Ministerium des Innern (Chief of the German Police in the Ministry of the Interior). It was initially commanded by SS-Oberstgruppenführer und Generaloberst der Polizei Kurt Daluege. But in 1943, Daluege had a massive heart attack and was removed from duty. He was replaced by SS-Obergruppenführer und General der Waffen-SS und der Polizei Alfred Wünnenberg, who served until the end of the war.

It also says that they conducted military operations:

Police Battalions

Ordnungspolizei conducting a raid (razzia) in the Krakow ghetto, January 1941.
Between 1939 and 1945, the Ordnungspolizei also maintained separate military formations, independent of the main police offices within Germany. The first such formations were the Police Battalions (SS-Polizei-Bataillone), for various auxiliary duties outside of Germany, including anti-partisan operations, construction of defense works (i.e. Atlantic Wall), and support of combat troops.[7] Specific duties varied widely from unit to unit from one year to another.[8] Generally, the SS Polizei units were not directly involved in combat.[9] Some Police Battalions were primarily focused on traditional security roles of an occupying force while others were directly involved in the Holocaust. This latter role was obscured in the immediate aftermath of World War II, both by accident and by deliberate obfuscation, when most of the focus was on the better-known Einsatzgruppen ("Operational groups") who reported to the Reichssicherheitshauptamt (RSHA — Reich Main Security Office) under Reinhard Heydrich.[10]

 

Sure are. The politically correct way is to blame everything on Zioniosts though, blaming the Jooz is the Nazier way.

 

Well, that sure would be dumb- as a large proportion of jews are not Zionists at all. Of course, a large proportion of Zionists aren't jewish either. Makes your particular biggoty-buck-bang a tad redundant, don't it.

 

There's nothing about them being a Jewish organization on their information page:

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/about/

Oh that's right anything that contradicts the pro-Islamic infiltration of the west must be Jew propaganda.

 

Good, so if it's ok with you I'll continue calling Jews, Jews, and Jewish organisations, Jewish organisations. Unless, of course, you have a problem with that and I should call them something else? Save your outrage for something to get outraged over.

 

The entire board of governors is either Jewish or vocal Israeli sympathisers, anti-Islamists, or contributors to Islamist Watch.
You draw your own conclusions, and I'll draw mine from some very basic research.

 

Oh, that why you called the organization "A Jewish propaganda source". LOL. You did go Nazier after all. Well fwiw I am not particularly surprised, the hatred of jews and beliefs in jewish consipracies are at the heart of far larger part of the "anti-zionist" movement than it is willing to admit and you are a classic example of that.

 

Prove that they are Jewish, being pro-Israel or anti-Islamist does not make an organization Jewish nor their information "Jew propaganda."

 

Not only did you clearly not even read your own article, but you seemed to have missed in the area of Israeli-Palestinian history. Fatah weren't the ones that took credit for the attack, the PFLP were; and assassinations, while distasteful, are a pretty standard Israeli practice as well so I'm curious as to why you would label it as terrorism?

Plus, really? The most recent example you could find of "Fatah" terrorism is 12 years old? I think your example does more to prove my point than it does to refute it.

 

If the Zoo against Zion applied their ignorant moral superiority to World War II, all American generals would have been imprisoned for war crimes.

 

In order to affect ignorant and OPEC-financed world opinion, these savages always hide behind civilians, giving the Israelis the choice between letting themselves get attacked mercilessly or looking bad to bad people. Even worse, these civilians want to be martyrs. The accusations of the Zoo Against Zion are like calling an atrocity an attack on a purely military base that also kills clerks and cooks. There are no true civilians in the areas occupied by Muslims.