Scientific study links 180,000 deaths to American chemical syrup soft drinks

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  1. gabriel1

    gabriel1 New Member

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    no thanks. I prefer to keep my lower legs and eyesight
     
  2. slashbeast

    slashbeast Banned

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    Tell that to double amputee war veterans. :unclesam:
     
  3. gabriel1

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    no point in rubbing it in, theyre already paying for their mistakes
     
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    You got some nerve you know that.
     
  5. gabriel1

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    yep...
     
  6. Serfin' USA

    Serfin' USA Well-Known Member

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    Pretty much.

    It's probably because alcoholism is a lot worse in Russia than here. Drug addiction of other kinds often is as well.
     
  7. Marshal

    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    Your liberty has been taken away. Consider this... If millions of people were eating mud bricks, you would think freedom makes them do it? No... It's LACK OF FREEDOM to eat what's better. The US people eat what is in front of them, near them, around them, etc. by cost locality.

    Cost undercutting a market with depraved products destroys freedom. If the US Government required artificial syrups, for example, to compete on cost parity with existing natural syrups. THAT would be freedom of choice, and defense of a natural industry. People can then choose the better syrup, businessmen would not be so ruthless with each other, and there might be enough money to boost production of natural syrups.

    The propensity of the FOOD market should be to quality, not to depravity.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So a lot of people consume a lot of sugar and then get diabetes, aka "the diabeetus" or "the sugar"...I think we can file that under "Stuff that everyone already knows"?
     
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    Artificial syrups? Sweet non-diet soft drinks are made with sugar or corn syrup, a natural syrup.

    Marshall, you are so ignorant of the realities of America that your posts are just crude exagertions
     
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    I never thought of it like that. I like the concept, but I don't think it would be feasible in a capitalistic economy. Using higher quality ingredients would make a company lose its competitive advantage and either another domestic or foreign company would just step in to take its place as the low cost leader. I do agree that there essentially is nothing but junk food all over the place and that it would be beneficial for all Americans if there were restrictions on fast food made with lower quality ingredients.
     
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    Americas present children will not live as long as their parents, because of food related issues.
    And a non-American tells us about our dangerous diet (that shortens our children lives), and you all make jokes about it.

    This poster is giving information on how to better the health of our children, but none of you republicans are interested in improving the health of Americas children.

    I hear Rush radio saying "the rich made all the right choices", and I see republican posters defending our CEO's "rights" to pay their workers low wages
    You are grown men and you (literally) defend male CEO's, more than you defend Americas children.
     
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    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/4/537.full

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    http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/79/4/537.full
     
  13. Marshal

    Marshal New Member Past Donor

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    The government sets the rules. They are called standards. Of course people will pay less if the option arrives to use fake cornmeal in their ingredients. It is not allowed because fake cornmeal damages the real cornmeal industry.

    It is about Fair Market Capitalism.

    Genetic modified salmon which contain a pout fish gene are LABELED so the consumer knows it is in a different class quality and the fish is labeled Hybrid Pout/Salmon. As such it is not permitted to undercut the natural salmon industry. The market then is fair with GMO competing against GMO and natural clearly seperated. Fake cheese is not listed as cheese, and not hidden underectable next to real cheese. Standards.
     
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    It's not up to CEOs to see that children eat a healthy diet.
    It's up to their parents.
     
  15. dixon76710

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    You are the one with no credibility, unable to support you assertion in the title. American syrup is no different than the syrup of every other country
     
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    I agree partly with the rep gov, though I do not agree with taking away calorie counts or other nutritional information as that is what allows consumers to make dietary decisions for themselves

    remember "Pellagra", the south refused to act there too...

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  17. Marshal

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    Let's address that.... YES... People SHOULD work out 2hrs a day. Why don't I advocate forcing them?? The question here is not about working out, or eating, per se, it's about working out and eating RIGHT. If there IS a particular workout which became prevalent because of socioeconomic conditions and peoples' desperation to save money, and the workout damaged their bodies. YES, I would be here banning the workout. You would say: "People can choose the workout they want (derp!)". And I would say people are being GIVEN a bad workout, INDUCED into choosing it (because it's cheaper). And moreover it's not necessary to give them that workout as a necessity to be rich! Healthy food should be abundant. When it is cost undercut by deplorable products it damages profits on the healthy food and it damages funds for production of healthy food and it damages supply of healthy food, and the market descends toward an abundance of bad food, as found in the US. The rich should be rich on healthy natural food! The standards should be a mere inconvenience to them! It is the greed and US Government betrayal of the people that has caused the severe obvious and non-disregardable American problems. Do NOT defend filth, my friend. Join me! Join me in hope for a better America.

    Americans invented and are the chief purveyors of the chemical reactions and scientific laboratory processes necessary to create that artificial syrup typified in the study and those chemicals that you are eating and they are the profiteers on that world's ingredient which has been scientifically declared as sickening millions (or in this study hundreds of thousands), and whose sickening depravity has become common knowledge as influencing diabetes, obesity, and the obvious rampant and horrid American condition.

    You are wrong. If you knew how HFCS was manufactured and the scientific laboratory chemical reactive processes and chemical inputs necessary to create it you would not say that it is natural.

    You are wrong. There is a plethora of natural syrup extractives from a variety of sources and if you only knew the splendor, aroma, and health benefits of the natural syrups, you would agree clearly they are in another class.

    The US Government's permit for scientific toxic syrup production is merely killing the natural healthy industries, and the toxic US syrup is killing real people.

    I stand by reality.
     
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    As usual you dont have a clue. Take every comment youve made here about "American" this and "american" that, and notice that your article doesnt support your assertions. Its not American sugary drinks that are un healthy it is ALL sugary drinks in all nations that are unhealthy. What connection do you see to America?
    And our use of corn syrup has nothing to do with capitalism and is instead due to government interference in the sugar and corn industries. AND as your article points out Mexico has a bigger health problem than the US. Mexico uses sugar in their softdrinks, not corn syrup.
     
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    You are CLUELESS. Mexico uses sugar in their soft drinks and has MORE of a health problem than the US where we use corn syrup. Such strong opinions upon topics you know nothing about. So brainwashed by your government media that you blame the US for your health problems due to sugary drinks. Would be humorous if not so pathetic.
     
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    I got to wondering just how HFCS is made, and why we use so much of it.

    I found the answer here.

    Hmm.. bacteria and fungi. I had no idea.

    Yet another bacterium.

    So, why is so much of it used in the USA?

    Ah, be cause the government subsidizes it, while taxing its competitors.
     
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    This is likely true since nearly 1/2 the world's population would be dead in a couple of months from starvation...
     
  22. Marshal

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    Why don't you just admit that American chemical drinks are unhealthy?

    Coca-Cola is the world's leader purveyor of filth. The US invented and peddles the HFCS toxic substance.

    You don't see the connection it's shocking. The connection is there my friend. And it's a bad one. A very, VERY BAD connection. People are dying because of what the US is doing.
     
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    Your article says that Mexico leads the 35 largest nations in deaths tied to surgary drinks, yet they use "real" sugar instead of HFCS in soft drinks there. So, why all of the squealing about high fructose corn syrup when conventional table sugar is just as deadly? Also, what do you want done exactly? Ban sugar?
     
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    The human body is designed to convert fructose into glucose. Go away food nazis... And actually people live longer and healthier lives because of what the US is doing. Compare the US where most food is US made and produce to third world countries in which none of it is and who has the largest longevity.

    You want to live like the Japanese? Move there. They live on average longer than any other group but the sacrifice is a highly regimented society in which your work day starts out with a period of exercise. But it is largely a society that is dying because the moral underpinnings have collapsed.
     
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    so People like sweet things and some people consume sweet things to the point where it harms them

    whats the big deal if u want to live badly enough don't overindulge in things u like that are bad for you

    that's hard for many of us so weer screwed and that sucks

    but that's life and death i guess in this case
     

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