10 Years Ago We Went To War For Oil

Sure they were. And if you want to be THAT way about it, Saddam's continued attempts to shoot down the alliance's combat air patrols were, technically, violations of the 1991 cease fire terms.

In that way of looking at it, it was as if Saddam had violated the terms of his parole and therefore had to be returned to prison to serve the rest of his original sentence. But instead of going back to prison, Saddam's violations re-ignited military actions against him and the Iraqi forces until they were stopped from mounting continued attacks on coalition aircraft.

Any way you look at it, the actions to invade were justfied.

Your feminine, emotionally biased, brain may not LIKE it, but it wasn't an illegitimate invasion.

 

yeah but theyre FREE!! lol. free to wait for garbage collection, sewage treatment, electricity and a car bomb now and again!! lo

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THAT is for the UN to decide , pal.

 

You're mixing things up a little. First of all, Kuwaitis are slimey cowards, which means they deserve no rights. I don't care what slimeballs take their country; real men never fight for cowards. The joke was:
"What's the fight song for the Kuwaiti army?"
Answer: "Onward Christian Soldiers"

A country that elects a flagburning draftdodger like Clinton and a flagwaving draftdodger like Bush deserves whatever history has in store for it. In a man's country, neither Chickenhawks nor Chickendoves should ever be allowed to hold even the lowest elected office. So I can understand the Red, White, and Blue's present tolerance for the Yellow.

Second, before OPEC had any power, we only had to pay 20 cents a gallon for gasoline. So not only did our transnational oil companies commit economic treason, but the OPECkers are jihadists also out to destroy us through charging us dozens of times what the oil cost them. Even now, one OPEC country charges its own citizens twelve cents a gallon for gasoline, which is all it's worth if there ever exists a truly free market. The Muslim oil hoarders are the lowest scum on Earth and they have no more right to own that oil than the camels that also live on their No Man's Land. Hating the Capitaliban should not require that you also have to love the Nazislamis. Dispossess them both.

 

so tell us where we can find these men's countries

 

No, you are mistaken.

He suggested, along with anyone else from the Bush Administation at the time who said essentially the same thing, that Iraq's oil revenues could help finance reconstruction costs.

Wolfowitz opined this might take place by 2005 or so. That opinion was obviously based on the belief that we would successfully conclude major combat operations AND prevent a significant insurgency. We concluded the major combat operations but couldn't prevent an insurgency from being mounted against coalition forces. An insurgency which prevented any significant reconstruction from taking place.

Everyone was saying Iraq had the expectation of producing oil revenues capable of helping pay for Iraqi RECONSTRUCTION.

Not the war.

mediamatters.org/mobile/research/2010/03/14/karl-rove-brings-his-misinformation-tour-to-mee/161610

 

In Afghanistan, Bush was only following what he learned about being a warrior after his Daddy got him into the Heir National Guard: two weeks in the summer, one weekend a month.

 

EVERYONE??? hahahahaahahahahaah

 

Tomgram: Peter Van Buren, How the American Taxpayer Got Plucked in Iraq

http://www.tomdispatch.com/archive/175448/peter_van_buren_chickening_out_in_iraq

 

Well, you keep waiting for it, then.

 

Never forget the other half of the Chickenhawks' clucking: that 9/11 was all Clinton's fault.

 

Everyone, that is, from the Bush Administration, which reinforces your position that highly placed Bush admn. officials had ideas of how Iraq oil revenues would be used to offset some of the expenses.

What you were wrong about is that he and everyone else cited in the source I cited at the link were speaking of Iraqi oil revenues going to help pay RECONSTRUCTION costs. Not war costs.

 

YOu have no idea WTF you are talking about. Bush flew the F102 Voodoo, a supersonic fighter/interceptor, with not the best safety record ever,and was rated as an "OUSTANDING FIGHTER/INTERCEPTOR PILOT" by every CO he had.


You do not learn to fly a supersonic fighter on "one weekend a month" and tw weeks every summer".


Make up some more nonsense, why dontcha?

 

Japan attacked us because FDR put an oil embargo on them. If people want to talk about international rules, I'm sorry to inform them that an embargo is a recognized justification for the embargoed countries to declare war on the embargoing companies. So we should have declared war on OPEC in 1973 and confiscated their oil. None of the subsequent history would have happened. Without oil money, which also funds the madrassah brainwashing that brings out the terrorism in susceptible races, the Nazislamis would be attacking us with sticks and stones, which are the proper weapons for their stage of human evolution.

 

I said that? link?

 

Kuwait is not a nation. It was drawn up by the British after World War I to make sure that Iraq would not be of the proper size or shape to lead the next jihad. Its map-made existence is the same as when foreigners owned our entire west coast. President James Polk released us from that national straitjacket. Saddam was only doing what history expects from a patriotic leader. In that respect, even if in that respect alone, he's a lot better than all the appeasers, multiculties, and transnationalists we've had occupying our national capital.

 

I agree. Murdering your own people is bad enough, but using deadly poison gas is absolutely devilish. But, if we didn't respond soon after it was reported in the news I can't see how we could cite these atrocities as reasons for invasion. Remember, even though we can rightly list liberating the Iraqi people from Saddam's brutal rule as an ancillary benefit of the invasion, you must recognize it wasn't a primary motivation.

 

We are still at war for oil and when we finally leave if we ever do nothing will have changed. It will be right back to where we were 10 years ago. Aramco made a huge mistake in discovering oil over there. The Saudi royal family are rich beyone any ones wildest dreams but the Saudi Peopl are about like us. Small upper class and huge lower class.

 

Half my company died in Vietnam, Chickenhawk; you're just spitting on their graves. We never would have gotten stuck there if preppy pukes had been drafted into the real fighting forces at age 18 and taken their chances on being sent over there. So this was a win-win situation for the guillotine fodder you so love to grovel in front of: they could make money off the war, and more money the longer the war lasted, and never have to risk losing their gutless unpatriotic sons. Anyone who supports their treason is just a Mama's Boy who hates his Daddy for not getting rich and spoiling him. But supporting those whose Daddies did spoil them will not bring you closure in your infantile fixation about your own childhood situation.

As for how dangerous his joyrides were in his Voodoo Spitfire (now there was a case of richkids actually fighting for their country), riding a motorcycle would have been far more risky. And I'd have a lot more respect for a Hell's Angels draftdodger than an Heir National Guard draftdodger.

If there had been any real men or real Americans around back when Bush was 18, one of them would have grabbed that preppie pipsqueak by the ear, marched him down to the Active Duty induction station, and tolded the sergeant, "Here, take this spoiled sissy first. He owes the country a lot more than I do."

Fifty thousand real Americans, working-class Americans, died in Vietnam. The richkids and their brown-nosing flunkies who got out of it owe us 50,000 lives. We'll settle the score someday, about another war or equally vital issue, you can count on that, preppie-lover.

 

And why did FDR embargo the "Japanese" oil?

To stop the Japanese's unimpeded South East Asian rampage which started in the early 1930's and killed hundreds of thousands of Chinese and Koreans and others.

And to prevent Japan from gaining acccess to other natural resources in S.E. Asia which would have given them an almost insurmountable military advantage.

 

embargoes justify war? link??

 

Thanks for your service. Sorry for the pain you, your loved ones and your band of brothers suffered because of Viet Nam. But your general bitterness seems to have finally found the perfect political climate within which it can emerge and thrive.

The climate of Obama's class warfare and domestic incivility.

You could be so much more than the 'bitter old man' here.

 

are you suggesting he wasn't bitter previous to this??

 

The reason we invaded Iraq is because Israel and the Jewish neocon traitors WANTED us to invade Iraq. Now that the war has proven to be a failure, oil is as good an excuse as any (better than mushroom clouds, dead babies in hospitals, etc.), and Israel and its backers are more than happy for you to believe it was about oil. That way they can get their next war, which will be against Iran.

 

Nah, it was because Saddam was saying mean things to Israel. You don't say mean things to Israel around Americans.

 

Only Cheney's Energy Task Force committee notes knows for sure.