The Reason Same Sex Marriage will Bring About Disaster

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  1. Blackrook

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    The Obama administration has already violated the Catholic Church's right to not get involved in birth control. So there will be nothing stopping him from ordering Catholic priests to perform same sex marriages. This will happen in the military, and Catholic chaplains who refuse will be discharged.
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wow, that is a very smart post. Add to that, well thought-out and written.
    Who are you? What do you do for a living?

    And thank you. That post is 100% accurate.

    You can call a cow a donkey, but it will never be a donkey.

    I have a feeling that at the bottom of the gay "marriage" issue is the need for gays to convince themselves and others that being homosexual is a valid lifestyle.

    We don't hate gays because homosexuality is an invalid lifestyle. We just know that homosexuality is not a valid lifestyle.

    After all, if you took sex out of the equation, being gay would be no different than a man already feels about his brother, or a woman her sister.

    And if you DID take sex out of homosexuality, I believe you would find that 95% of homosexuals would suddenly become heterosexuals again. Actually, probably higher than 95%.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    I'm serious about this... gays are promiscuous... partnered or not. Do you disagree?

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    I'm serious about this... gays are promiscuous... partnered or not. Do you disagree?
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't make fun of people. It's a form of hate. Your side ALREADY has haters among its ranks.

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    Grow some balls and admit what you know. (or if you're a woman, try being TRULY liberated)
     
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    Correction: Marriage is a human figure created to represent a state in a relationship of a person when the other person is of the opposite sex.

    Hard to grasp?
     
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    Ex-lib Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It's more a civil war over the importance of an entire society being forced to pretend a lie is the truth.

    I don't think it's going to be a physical war, but I am certain that it is a war that's going to take place in every individual consciousness.

    And the only hard part will be for those who believe a lie.
     
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    Correction: It's a state-sanctioned, legal contract between two adults of different genders that delineates mutual privileges and responsibilities.

    Hard to grasp?

    Gay marriage may pass the legislature, but eventually, it will just pass, as Blackrook said.

    It's almost astonishing the way that you amoralists are suckered in by the belief that gay marriage makes sense.
     
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    For two men to lie together or for two women to lie together is a mortal sin, an offense before God, and the punishment for that sin is eternal death.

    Certainly, any relationship which is grounded on a mortal sin cannot be the basis of a marriage, which is a holy sacrament.

    And that's the religious reason to oppose same sex marriage, and unless you extinguish religion, it will be there.

    But marriage pre-existed the Christian religion, it is as old as mankind itself, and it has always been between a man and a woman.

    Even the pedophile Greeks understood they could not marry the boys they used for pleasure, but took women for wives.

    So our society will now become more sick and depraved than the ancient Greeks, which is not a good idea.
     
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    Ah was it only 50 years ago that critics of mix-race marriage were saying the same thing?

    Even preachers on the pulpit made the same claim.

    Proud company to be in.

    Giving people equal rights is a good thing.
     
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    Hmmm you realize that it is no more and no less a sin than adultery?(from the perspective of a Christian)- and that is no more and no less a sin than marrying a woman who has been divorced?

    So your concern about the morals of our society is rather belated- seriously you live in Las Vegas- where marriage is treated as a joke, and which helped create the divorce industry.
     
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    You moralists are suckered in by the belief that gay marriage will harm marriage- we heterosexuals are the problem with marriage- homosexuals are the ones that want to honor marriage- our problem is that too many heterosexuals don't.

    But the moralists can find blame only in homosexuals.
     
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    Wow, the inner workings of the ubber-conservative mind, "I Say So" and that is that, even threw in a little story, pictures at 11, to entertain. So ,if it all means nothing why is it the ubber-conservatives are throwing such a tantrum, just let it happen and it will all fail on its own, right? Something does not add up here, me thinks it is many of the claims made in the OP. Nothing new here.
     
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    You funny!
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    You prob dont see the connection, but there's always a price for progress. 72% of all black children are being raised by single mothers today. Maybe we shouldn't have discouraged marriage between blacks?
     
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    See- I can always find someone who misses the bans on inter-racial marriages.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Must be missing something here. Are we talking about unintended consequences of laws concerning marriage or are we talking about me?
     
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    Since when is the U.S. a theocracy? Whether or not SSM or Homosexuality is a problem with your specific deity is irrelevant to the discussion. A fair number of your fellow citizens do not consider your deity to be either the right one or to even exist at all. You do not have the right to use the power of the state to enforce your particular religious beliefs on everyone.
     
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    Quite a few actually, and I am straight.
     
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    Smartmouthwoman Bless your heart Past Donor

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    Over 60? That's good. Certainly rare nowadays.
     
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    Hospitals(civil)---------/--------religious ceremonies(religion)
     
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    Smartie though youre likely beautiful and intelligent Im not sure you really want to spend the rest of your worthy life making degrading implications about other peoples personal lives. Ideally you would keep an open mind and only wish the best for them in their endeavours.
     
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    Yep, just like if we legalize all drugs, everyone will do them. If we don't believe in God, we're going to hell. If we get touched by someone who is gay, we'll become gay. Here's a good history lesson for you: http://www.hyperhistory.net/apwh/essays/cot/t0w32homosexuality.htm

    What folks don't realize is that folks were attracted to their same gender since as long as anyone can document it. Even back then, it was repressed just as it is today. We just assume that there is something different with it today as if there has been an abundance of gay/lesbians. Either that, or folks truly believe that they will become gay/lesbian if they are around them. I'm fairly certain it's the same amount. The only difference is folks feel as though they can come out and speak about it freely, because that's their right to do it. Back then, I would imagine they didn't have the ability to do such a thing.

    My political beliefs might not be the best, they might not be appealing to all, but at least I can say I respect your rights and don't wish to infringe on anyone's rights to engage in any relations with those of the same sex nor do I ask politicians to pass legislation to infringe on them either.
     
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    Gender is no longer a pretext to discriminate in marriage contracts in Connecticut, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, Washington, the District of Columbia, the jurisdictions of three Native American tribes, as well as in Argentina, Belgium, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Spain, South Africa, Sweden, and parts of Brazil and Mexico.

    Expect the progress to continue, since the old biddies who get in a tizzy over other folks having the same rights cannot show how they are harmed by it. They are dying off anyways.

    Dick Cheney may have been out in front, but Republican Sen. Mark Kirk, Republican Sen. Rob Portman, Republican Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, and Republican Rep. Richard Hanna have now voiced their support, along with with one hundred thirty-one prominent Republicans who have signed a pro-same-sex marriage legal brief in the current Supreme Court case.

    Equality - The old darlings can sputter, carp, squawk, gripe, grouse, kvetch, b¡tch, moan, yammer, brood, and sulk, but eventually they'll just have to lump it.

    Look to the advanced jurisdictions where such mindless prejudice has already been vanquished. No big deal!


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    I have never understood why biblical conservatives are so opposed to same-sex marriage. I can think of no better way to put an end to homosexual activities! :hiding:

    Put an end to gay sex. Legalize gay marriage!
     
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    It used to be that you were making excuses for Ron and Rand Paul but now you are making excuses for your own political beliefs. If you think your political beliefs aren't the best then what is it that you think is not good about it? I mean really, they're beliefs and you can change what you believe! Just stop believing in the stuff you think is not good.

    Can you explain? It's just that with me, if I believe something is not the right thing to believe then I usually stop believing it. Why don't you do the same?

    Maybe the big problem with us not being able to communicate properly is because you are saying you believe in things you don't really believe in. Beats me?
     

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